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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>
Cc: fweimer@redhat.com, carlos@redhat.com, 43389@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43389: 28.0.50; Emacs memory leaks
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 22:27:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ft57raog.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xnmtzfrb78.fsf@greed.delorie.com> (message from DJ Delorie on Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:16:11 -0500)

> From: DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>
> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, carlos@redhat.com, 43389@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:16:11 -0500
> 
> Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> writes:
> > But how helpful would that be, given that malloc_info does not really
> > show any inactive memory (discounting my 200 MiB hole)?
> 
> One doesn't know how helpful until after looking at the data.  If RSS is
> going up fast, something is calling either sbrk or mmap.  If that thing
> is malloc, a trace tells us if there's a pattern.  If that pattern
> blames the lisp allocator, my job here is done ;-)

I won't hold my breath for the lisp allocator to take the blame.  A
couple of people who were hit by the problem reported the statistics
of Lisp objects as produced by GC (those reports are somewhere in the
bug discussions, you should be able to find them).  Those statistics
indicated a very moderate amount of live Lisp objects, nowhere near
the huge memory footprint.

(It would be interesting to see the GC statistics from Florian's
session, btw.)

Given this data, it seems that if the Lisp allocator is involved, the
real problem is in what happens with memory it frees when objects are
GC'ed.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-17 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-14  0:43 bug#43389: 28.0.50; Emacs memory leaks Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-14 19:09 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-15  0:32   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-09-15 17:54     ` Russell Adams
2020-09-15 18:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-15 21:12         ` Russell Adams
2020-09-16 14:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-17 20:47             ` Russell Adams
2020-09-17 21:58               ` Joshua Branson via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-17 23:09                 ` Russell Adams
2020-09-18  6:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-18  7:53                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-18  8:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-20 20:08                     ` jbranso--- via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-09-18  8:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-09 20:46                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 21:24                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 21:51                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10  3:36                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10  8:22                         ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-10 12:59                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 13:01                             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-10 13:10                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 13:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 13:26                                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 14:25                                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 15:36                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 17:44                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 18:55                                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 15:34                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 16:49                                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 17:13                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-08  1:07                                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-08  3:24                                           ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-12-08 12:37                                             ` Russell Adams
2020-12-08  5:13                                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-08 16:29                                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-10  0:50                                               ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-10  5:43                                                 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 15:53                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 10:25                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 15:55                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 16:41                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 22:33                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10 15:47                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-10 16:36                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 19:51                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-10  3:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-26 15:42               ` Russell Adams
2020-11-26 16:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-26 16:54                   ` Russell Adams
2020-11-26 19:20                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-27 10:45                       ` Russell Adams
2020-11-27 12:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 19:56                           ` Russell Adams
2020-11-28 20:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-28 21:52                               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-11-29  3:29                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-17 20:59 ` Thomas Ingram
2020-10-29 20:17 ` Trevor Bentley
2020-10-30  8:00   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-11 21:15     ` Trevor Bentley
2020-11-12 14:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 20:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-16 20:42           ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 15:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 16:32               ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-17 17:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 17:20                   ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 19:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 19:59                       ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 20:13                         ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 20:16                           ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 20:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-11-17 20:35                               ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 20:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 20:58                                   ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 21:10                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18  5:43                                       ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-18  6:09                                         ` Jean Louis
2020-11-18  8:32                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2020-11-18  9:01                                             ` Jean Louis
2020-11-18 16:19                                               ` Russell Adams
2020-11-18 17:30                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 15:57                                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-18 18:01                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 18:27                                           ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-19 16:08                                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-22 20:19                                               ` Deus Max
2020-11-23  3:26                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-23 16:45                                                   ` Deus Max
2020-11-23 17:07                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 16:33               ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 17:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-17 17:24                   ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 20:39                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-17 20:57                     ` DJ Delorie
2020-11-17 21:45                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-18 15:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-23 18:55                           ` Jean Louis
     [not found]         ` <87wnyju40z.fsf@mail.trevorbentley.com>
2020-11-17 20:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-18 21:47 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-11-19 14:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 14:34     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-19 16:03       ` Carlos O'Donell
2020-11-19 17:25     ` jao
2020-12-09 19:41 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-12-09 20:25   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-12-09 21:04     ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-12-11 13:55       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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