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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 400@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 09:31:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fssuany1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmkSm4OOsVJ1JNTd2qOdiGo-RCowHrsRhbz5C-tEN-FqvQ@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:02:35 -0700)

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:02:35 -0700
> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, 400@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > I don't see how using "C-h v" in that case is a reasonable use case,
> > since the documentation is displayed right below the name of the
> > option.
> >
> > We could perhaps have a help command that recognized names of
> > variables in this format, but then it shouldn't be "C-h v", IMO, since
> > that command talks about _variables_, whereas a name such as "Info
> > Hide Note References" is not a variable name.
> 
> I appreciate the merits of this point of view, but at the same time it
> would be kind of nice with some DWIM here.
> 
> I for one have gone through switching unlispify off, because it is
> faster to hit `C-h v RET' (firmly committed to muscle memory) than
> fiddling around with however it is you expand the documentation in a
> customize buffer; I guess the fastest way is C-a RET TAB TAB TAB (until
> point lands on "More") and then RET again.

??? The doc string is displayed by default, fully expanded.  So why
would you need to "expand" it?  What am I missing?

> So I think I would actually appreciate this feature, in particular if it
> was on `C-h v' because that's what I use everywhere else for variables.
> Even if it could perhaps be considered a bit "unclean".

Even if I'm missing something above, and you don't see the full doc
string by default, wouldn't it be better to have a special command in
the Custom buffer to expand the doc string, than tweak "C-h v" to do
something special in such cases?





  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-21  6:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-12 16:27 bug#400: 23.0.60; C-h v should pick up lispified name in Customize Drew Adams
2008-06-12 21:19 ` martin rudalics
2008-06-12 21:28   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-06 12:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-06 14:39   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-06 16:33     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-10-20 21:02     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-20 21:27       ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-21  6:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 16:15           ` Drew Adams
2021-10-21  3:09       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21  3:35         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21  3:38           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-21  5:01             ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-21  7:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 16:49             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-22 14:29               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-22 17:13                 ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-21  4:26         ` Drew Adams
2021-10-21  7:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21  6:31       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-10-21 15:47         ` Howard Melman
2021-10-21 17:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-22  2:36             ` Howard Melman
2021-10-22  6:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-22 15:38                 ` Howard Melman
2021-10-22 17:22                   ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-21 16:34         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21 17:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 17:50             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-21 18:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-21 19:45                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-22  6:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-22  8:12                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-22 10:49                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-22 16:56                     ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-22  3:30           ` Howard Melman
2021-10-22 16:51             ` bug#400: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-23 18:25               ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-06 17:06   ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<007f01c8cca9$3cbbf770$c2b22382@us.oracle.com>
     [not found] ` <<875z8rum4k.fsf@gnus.org>
     [not found]   ` <<83o8mjnf5n.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-06 17:13     ` Drew Adams

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