From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Is there a way to avoid clobbering minibuffer by messages? Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 19:35:27 +0300 Message-ID: <83fs9m42pc.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3f004ca9-1f71-2c5b-17f1-e154f209e6d3@gmail.com> <83ilei62o6.fsf@gnu.org> <8d94bd37-d657-cf14-c0cb-372cde983ee0@gmail.com> <837cuy5y2m.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1780"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 30 18:35:58 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1phvFl-0000Bd-CX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:35:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1phvFK-00033U-16; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 12:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1phvFI-00033L-MZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 12:35:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1phvFI-0004k1-FC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 12:35:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=YuhjsgJ+xp649yvg4ZOrEciDxkLDRcejxjLF+RMKJfs=; b=I+q/Flk9+1QN rfp/6EOX8qYVTT/D7mX1LdxKsOEKSZNe7gJHiINyhQfu+KbibxKy+yE3ylWbZVD/T319gMRuRlSBe 9uai/UpnZWJfJxzFOJ8NUzY/mslYh3FhE2OBuTZFPkPI3f2ay3d+9P13xX7Lp25NIDNAW1jS26AAd gHsr0GeX2bPmV3deCoyFaP1bZJdft34uSWxjLI7e/G1rS6R88JkkuwHFsfm7Q6oa2eDKiFYO5dvnj 8DFHscbk2xFb+3l7hTZYkplqLJIUvWJ07yMCMcXJu26bDF7nwEYutw0VKsuWbgqxGVLL1+q0ghj0c QbNXhXA73kJ4BRCclC5RAQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1phvF5-0001QL-Rr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2023 12:35:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 30 Mar 2023 16:28:16 +0000) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:143153 Archived-At: > From: Drew Adams > CC: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" > Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 16:28:16 +0000 > > Why not let users choose among several behaviors? > > 1. Emacs 28+ approach: message and input in > minibuffer at the same time. > > 2. Traditional approach: echo area displayed > temporarily, in place of the minibuffer. > > 3. Minibuffer and echo area shown separately, > in different places? > > And offer various choices for #3: how to show > the echo area. Users can already choose between 1 and 2: see set-message-function. As for the other alternatives: no one wrote the code to implement them; patches welcome. (Of course, they all can be implemented via set-message-function.)