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No, I think having both is better. It is easier to say "C-u" than to change the value of an option, so for one-off update of a single package, the prefix argument is more convenient. > >> No, my proposed diff changes what package decides to download (the > >> planning phase), but doesn't touch anything after that. The current > >> state is that (package-install 'eglot) just prints > >> > >> ‘eglot’ is already installed > > > > And does nothing else? You seem to be saying it still downloads > > something, but what is that? > > No, it just prints that message but doesn't download anything. OK, then allowing to install such packages under the proposed changes will improve that case as well.