From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3035: 23.0.92; doc, terminology for graphics, display, terminal, etc. Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:55:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83eivpiswn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <001201c9bf7c$14221e40$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <83tz4mig8z.fsf@gnu.org> <002301c9bffa$93ba5040$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <83myaei6h4.fsf@gnu.org> <003301c9c041$f6ff1810$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <83fxg5j2uc.fsf@gnu.org> <000001c9c04b$3c46c180$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 3035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240088683 2159 80.91.229.12 (18 Apr 2009 21:04:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 18 23:06:02 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LvHj9-0008Bq-Ia for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:05:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55039 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LvHhk-0005Xi-Ii for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:04:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LvHhg-0005XV-LA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LvHhb-0005X5-6m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:03:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34469 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LvHhb-0005X2-2G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:25596) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LvHha-0005Yg-Gi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:03:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LvHhZ-0000ah-Kk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:03:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3IL3pKa031184; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:03:52 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3IL02R2029945; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:00:02 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3035 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3035-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3035.124008811529678 (code B ref 3035); Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3035) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 Apr 2009 20:55:15 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il (mtaout6.012.net.il [84.95.2.16]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3IKt9aD028642 for <3035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:55:11 -0700 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout6.012.net.il by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KIB00K00DSC2J00@i-mtaout6.012.net.il> for 3035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:55:03 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.144.191]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KIB007FTE3P3670@i-mtaout6.012.net.il>; Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:55:02 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <000001c9c04b$3c46c180$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:03:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27337 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: <3035@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> > Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 10:29:31 -0700 > > > I don't think it's a good idea to show bold in Info when it comes out > > as slanted in print. And making this change in the printed output as > > well would be unwise, IMO, as this is a very old and well-known > > convention of Texinfo. > > I see. But you said the same thing about emphasis (_foo_). If both "some > quotation" and _something emphasized_ appear as slanted text in print, then how > does a reader distinguish these uses? I think the reader cannot distinguish, indeed, by the typeface alone. But @emph is really very rarely used, unlike @dfn; and then, there's context. So in practice the problem is not very big one, I think. At least I myself never had problems.