From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: redisplay system of emacs Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:53:52 +0200 Message-ID: <83eil8sn5b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <27349166.post@talk.nabble.com> <83bpge50k5.fsf@gnu.org> <87vdem8gly.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87k4v1xm4l.fsf@gmail.com> <83sk9prvnd.fsf@gnu.org> <87k4v1vz5f.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1264794953 19808 80.91.229.12 (29 Jan 2010 19:55:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: paul.r.ml@gmail.com, Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 29 20:55:48 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nawvz-0001uH-Dd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:55:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34410 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nawvy-0000fA-S0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:55:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nawvt-0000eB-Pl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:55:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nawvp-0000dB-AP for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:55:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58348 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nawvp-0000d8-59 for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:55:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:51975) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nawvo-00089j-BM for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:55:04 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KX000700XVNIN00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:53:51 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.180.161]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KX0002MUXXQYFK0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:53:51 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120669 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:35:28 -0500 > > Eli> That's a pretty general assessment. Any data points other than the > Eli> display engine? > > Most of what Emacs's code offers is available elsewhere one way or > another in *apparently* better shape and with an active community. > That's true of the redisplay as we've been discussing, it's true of the > extension language, the GC, the coding-conversion libraries, the > wiget/menu code, and probably a lot more. > > So, yes, it's probably fairly easy to do an Emacs-like editor using > another extension language etc... I thought the issue was not creation of a new editor, but using in Emacs code written elsewhere for some tasks Emacs now does with code written specifically for it. > At some point, I've considered the possibility to switch to one of > those (where the extension language is statically typed ;-), but > ... they didn't have PCL-CVS, diff-mode, Gnus, ... so it was really > an uphill battle. Heh, that's how I came to Emacs 15 years ago: I got tired reimplementing in a workalike all the features I missed and in Emacs were there to be used...