From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: users and selection changes [was: Custom themes] Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:54:08 +0200 Message-ID: <83eibscuf3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r5fxnwcp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eibvupir.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4CB6115E.7010304@harpegolden.net> <87zkuhv1vc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <20F7A620198B48BFBD9582C310C65244@us.oracle.com> <83fww8d3m6.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1287094631 10878 80.91.229.12 (14 Oct 2010 22:17:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, david@harpegolden.net To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 15 00:17:10 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P6W6j-0000k7-C7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:17:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33215 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P6W6i-0004an-AM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59403 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P6Vys-0007Rb-As for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:09:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P6Vka-0003DA-Fk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:54:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:40712) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P6Vka-0003D2-9G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 17:54:12 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LAA00K00UVCP000@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:54:10 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.93.189]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LAA00KTXVI8EG50@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:54:10 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131722 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Cc: , , > Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:51:39 -0700 > > > > We were told several times that users _would_ be able to > > > get back exactly the pre-Emacs 24 selection behavior (at > > > least on Windows, and I thought everywhere), and that we > > > just had to wait patiently until the "wrinkles" were > > > "ironed" out and we would be told how. > > > > That time has come and gone. > > Good to hear. So where's the explanation for users? > > NEWS is incomplete and incorrect (see bugs #7196 & #7195). > I don't see it in the manuals either. You've filed these bugs, and they will be handled. I thought this thread was about something else. Is it? > > I'm not aware of any problems with getting the old > > behavior back by customizing mouse-drag-copy-region. > > Does that give exactly the same behavior as before? On all platforms? Yes, AFAIK, if by "behavior" you mean the effect of selecting text with a mouse. > Yidong seems to have just said that that is impossible. My name is not Yidong. > > The only leftover I know about is your complain about the need to > > customize mouse-drag-copy-region. > > You are inventing. Am I? Then what's this about: > From bug #6956: In previous Emacs releases on X Window, "Were users able to > mouse-select and mouse-paste between sessions without first copying to the kill > ring" (i.e. with nil `mouse-drag-copy-region')? I don't know the answer. If > yes, then that feature has apparently been lost ? > > If there are other problems left, please file specific bug reports. > > From bug #6956: I said "_other_ problems". That means not this one.