From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Building Emacs on Windows with MinGW+MSYS (was: Emacs pretest 24.0.90) Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:20:56 +0200 Message-ID: <83ehygkmqf.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83pqi01rcl.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318580465 16455 80.91.229.12 (14 Oct 2011 08:21:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dani Moncayo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 14 10:21:00 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1REd0l-0002WP-4P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:20:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34570 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REd0k-0001pN-B4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:20:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REd0h-0001p7-Ab for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:20:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REd0g-00051j-Cb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:20:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:42942) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REd0g-00051f-4q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:20:54 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LT100200Q4REK00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:20:53 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.17.178]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LT1002L3R6SD660@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:20:53 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145201 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:23:43 +0200 > From: Dani Moncayo > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >=20 > > If you use the MinGW Make, then the only tools you need from MSYS= are > > cp, mv, and rm. =A0It makes no sense to install MSYS for these 3 > > programs. =A0Just install the GnuWin32 Coreutils, and be done. >=20 > In my case, it make sense, because MSYS gives me a useful set of to= ols > beyond those three: diff, grep, find, touch, cat, ls and many more. If you use those outside of Emacs, then this benefit is unrelated to the issue at hand, which is what should be the best recommended way o= f building Emacs on Windows. If you use them from Emacs, then the same caveats apply about file-name conversion done by MSYS tools. The MSYS developers themselves explicitly tell that these tools are not supposed to be used for any purpose _except_ running the Posix configure scripts and the Makefile's produced by those scripts, for the explicit goal of building MinGW packages. "Building", not "using". So beware. > I found it very handy, not only for building Emacs, but to have a > "minimal system" for programming. You are using MSYS out of its intended purpose, so it will bite you some day.