From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16439: [feature request] Highlighting of strings within Info buffers Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:53:20 +0200 Message-ID: <83eh41gwlr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86lhyic1ik.fsf@somewhere.org> <1394187.cuqsIWxxGs@descartes> <27136a64-176c-4312-a2aa-c86e81091a76@default> <874n4z3tb7.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83ioteisx1.fsf@gnu.org> <8738khzs5c.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390319661 11368 80.91.229.3 (21 Jan 2014 15:54:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ruediger@c-plusplus.de, 16439@debbugs.gnu.org, sva-news@mygooglest.com To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 21 16:54:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W5dee-0006A8-AR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:54:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59157 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5ded-0003Py-Vt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:54:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5deR-0003Ox-2C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:54:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5deM-0005ln-PQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:54:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5deM-0005li-LJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:54:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W5deL-0008Rm-Vh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:54:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16439.139031962032433 (code B ref 16439); Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:54:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2014 15:53:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59791 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W5ddz-0008R3-Pa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:53:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:48479) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W5ddw-0008Qq-DS for 16439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 10:53:37 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZR00000DE4LC00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for 16439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:54:20 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZR00PXNDIK2S10@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 17:54:20 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <8738khzs5c.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83852 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, ruediger@c-plusplus.de, 16439@debbugs.gnu.org, sva-news@mygooglest.com > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:54:39 +0200 > > >> Most optional features in Emacs are grouped into "packages". > >> > >> Should "packages" be highlighted as a string. Of course not. > > > > Why not? This particular example is produced from @dfn in Texinfo, > > which should emphasize its argument. In the printed version > > "packages" is typeset in slanted typeface (and without the quotes). > > It makes sense to emphasize either 1) using quotes and no additional > highlighting or 2) using italic without the quotes, but not both styles > (italic and quotes) at the same time. I agree, and didn't say anything to the contrary. I told about the slant typeface as an evidence that what came out of @dfn should be emphasized in some way. > >> There is no additional emphasis on quotations in books. > > > > But we are not talking about books, are we? We are talking about Info > > manuals, which are mostly documentation of software. > > Ideally, the look of on-line documentation should not differ from > the printed version. We are not talking about ideals. > But actually I see no much need in replacing Texinfo as the source format. > As for the output format, we could try to migrate in the direction of HTML. > However, HTML has its own problems (no index, slow rendering, etc.) Indeed, and I wasn't asking to switch. This was only about emphasizing quoted strings in Info manuals.