From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18205: Obsolete patterns in auto-mode-alist Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 18:27:07 +0300 Message-ID: <83egwsnwvo.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y4v1o5un.fsf@gnu.org> <83k36lnhb1.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1407425311 14368 80.91.229.3 (7 Aug 2014 15:28:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18205@debbugs.gnu.org To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 07 17:28:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XFPc2-0006Bm-SQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 17:28:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47037 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFPc2-0005Ow-Bl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:28:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45098) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFPbu-0005Nx-AP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:28:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFPbm-0006sf-Md for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:28:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55434) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XFPbm-0006sZ-Jf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:28:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XFPbm-0000jJ-08 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:28:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18205 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18205-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18205.14074252222724 (code B ref 18205); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18205) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2014 15:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34144 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XFPan-0000hf-Oa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:27:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:34446) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XFPak-0000hL-Ot for 18205@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:27:00 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N9Y00E0006X5S00@mtaout29.012.net.il> for 18205@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 18:26:54 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N9Y00D2Y08TBX10@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 18:26:54 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:92264 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 13:02:26 +0100 > From: Reuben Thomas > Cc: 18205@debbugs.gnu.org > > On 7 August 2014 03:51, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:05:33 +0100 > > > From: Reuben Thomas > > > Cc: 18205@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > > > If "_emacs" is to be supported, surely other similar patterns should > > > be added for other dot files? > > > > Which patterns are those? > > > > For example, the patterns for bash's dot-files. It was never required, and nowadays the MS-DOS build does not get any features added, especially if no one asked for them. > > Why do you think we support _emacs for DOS and Windows? > > > > I'm not sure why you're asking me, you're the DJGPP maintainer! If you > meant it as an exercise, then I'd say: I have no idea where we support it > on Windows, where, post-Win 3.x (which we don't support), ".emacs" is a > valid filename. We support _emacs on Windows because the Windows Explorer used to dislike files with a leading dot, pretending they didn't exist or couldn't be created. A release or two ago, we deprecated _emacs on Windows, but we still didn't remove support for it. > I understood that DJGPP had long filename support too, but maybe that's not > universal? Only on Windows, or with a special driver. Not on plain DOS. > In which case, not only "_emacs", but other GNU dotfiles should > surely be supported with a leading "_"? In principle, yes. But this is all ad-hoc, not universal. > In other words, it looks like a quick hack to support the most > commonly-edited Emacs file that would suffer from this problem. I can't > tell whether it's still needed, and if it is, it should be extended > systematically. See above: _emacs is still needed.