From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:48:21 +0300 Message-ID: <83egl1g6tm.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <55826DCC.9040404@cs.ucla.edu> <55850208.3080605@cs.ucla.edu> <5585C279.3030607@cs.ucla.edu> <55871590.8010406@cs.ucla.edu> <83vbefhihy.fsf@gnu.org> <834mlyh1v4.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1435114132 12431 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2015 02:48:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 02:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, tsdh@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 24 04:48:43 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7ajy-0008WL-MG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 04:48:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48285 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7ajy-0001RV-5j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:48:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34841) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7ajt-0001Mq-DB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:48:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7ajq-0007Kz-1u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:48:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:34116) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z7ajp-0007KI-Pb; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:48:33 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NQF00E00GZIE100@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:48:32 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NQF00EMVH4VB440@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 05:48:32 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187461 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > CC: acm@muc.de, stephen@xemacs.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, tsdh@gnu.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:21:08 -0400 > > > > Are the ASCII equivalents of the two curly braces ` and '? > > > No, they are ' and ', in line with the recommendations of the GNU > > Coding Standards. > > Does this mean that both curly braces, in Emacs Lisp doc strings, > will appear as ' on a terminal which can't display curly braces? Yes. > That's a total screw. Developers using such a display > will not be able to distinguish the two. "C-x =" can tell the difference. But yes, it's not very convenient. However, standards.texi was recommending to quote 'like this' for quite some time now, so I think that ship sailed long ago. > If they display as ` and ', editing will be feasible once > you understand the convention. If they both display as ', > it makes no sense to try this even as an experiment. You can customize the display table if you want. This is Emacs, after all.