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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: xref and leaving "temporary" buffers open
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:36:28 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83egjw1ez7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55B39C3A.9070107@yandex.ru>

> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:24:58 +0300
> 
> On 07/25/2015 05:07 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> >> The question is, should they be killed afterwards.
> >
> > There are arguments either way, AFAIU, so perhaps make this a
> > defcustom.
> 
> That's a cop-out answer.

Is it ever possible to have a discussion with you without feeling
castigated for my views and opinions?  You asked for opinions, so
please accept them benevolently, even if you don't like them.

> Whichever value is the default, will influence the implementation
> (if the buffers are killed right away, they should be opened in a
> special way, otherwise, they must be opened normally, with all
> applicable minor modes).

My vote is for the default that keeps the buffers.  I see nothing
wrong with having a lot of buffers in an Emacs session.  Personally, I
regularly walk through all my buffers and kill those I no longer need,
because I use desktop.el to restore my sessions, which would otherwise
grow indefinitely.  It's no big deal.  It is much less of a big deal
if sessions are not restored.

> If the buffers are killed, xref-query-replace will need to account for 
> that, and not open too many buffers at the same time.

I don't see why that would be true.  Please elaborate.

> > Might be reasonable.  Again, if you are in doubt, let a user option
> > override that.
> 
> Please, let's stop with "implement every behavior a user might want". 
> There are better things for a developer to spend time on. Unless a 
> particular behavior is requested, a user option is premature.

You asked for an opinion, that's mine.  IME, good engineering
anticipates such requests before they are voiced.  If you can only
resolve a controversy applying your personal preferences, it's a clear
sign that someone, somewhere will be unhappy about it.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-25 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-25  0:47 xref and leaving "temporary" buffers open Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-25  7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-25 13:26   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-25 14:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-25 14:24       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-25 14:36         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-07-25 15:09           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-25 15:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-25 16:07               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-25 16:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-25 16:28                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-25 16:38                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-25 17:03                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-25 18:17                         ` martin rudalics
2015-07-25 18:30                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-27 17:34                             ` Nix
2015-07-28 13:30                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-29 15:02                                 ` Nix
2015-07-25  8:28 ` martin rudalics
2015-07-25 13:36   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-25 14:12     ` martin rudalics
2015-07-25 14:44       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-25 15:53         ` martin rudalics
2015-07-25 20:12           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-26 11:27             ` martin rudalics
2015-07-26 13:50               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-27 16:02                 ` martin rudalics
2015-07-28 12:57                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-28 13:16                     ` martin rudalics
2015-07-28 13:35                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-28 15:10                         ` martin rudalics
2015-07-28 15:18                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-28 15:40                             ` martin rudalics
2015-07-28 19:13                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-28 23:48                     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-07-29  1:42                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-30 21:41                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-03  2:12                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-03  6:47                             ` martin rudalics
2015-08-03 10:10                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-08-03 10:45                                 ` martin rudalics
2015-08-03 10:50                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-07-26 19:00             ` Stephen Leake
2015-07-26 19:11               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-07-27 16:02               ` martin rudalics
2015-07-28  1:32                 ` Stephen Leake
2015-07-25 13:47   ` Stephen Leake
2015-07-25 14:19     ` martin rudalics
2015-07-25 15:51     ` Dmitry Gutov

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