From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? (Was: bug#21998: Run 'make change-history' on release branch) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 21:53:13 +0200 Message-ID: <83egbjo2c6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <83bn6quugw.fsf@gnu.org> <83k2lbo4ba.fsf@gnu.org> <56E076EC.8040606@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457553223 3418 80.91.229.3 (9 Mar 2016 19:53:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 19:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 20:53:32 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adkAh-0007rY-63 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 20:53:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43799 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adkAd-0003lN-Em for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 14:53:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54570) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adkAO-0003l7-Db for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 14:53:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adkAN-0007hG-L5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 14:53:08 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45518) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adkAJ-0007gM-1g; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 14:53:03 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4231 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1adkAI-0003Hr-9e; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 14:53:02 -0500 In-reply-to: <56E076EC.8040606@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:18:04 -0800) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201308 Archived-At: > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 11:18:04 -0800 > Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On 03/09/2016 11:10 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> >Git can in fact be configured to recognize “functions” differently, > >> >per file type. > > Yes, I know. But how many people have done that, and how many of them > > will be able to cough up the right regex for whatever language they > > need? > > We don't need to do it for all languages, just for the languages Emacs > is written in. Which are quite a few. > And people shouldn't need to cough up the right regex; all they need > to do is run "./autogen.sh all" or "./autogen.sh git". That still misses a couple that add-change-log-entry doesn't. > We should get people into the habit of running autogen.sh that way, > when they clone from the repository. Some of them didn't like the extra baggage that brings, though.