From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making better use of the "release blocking list" [was: bug#23288: 25.0.92; Clicking on links inserts primary X selection] Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 22:06:13 +0300 Message-ID: <83eg8v6xju.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mvnxau5t.fsf@gnu.org> <83futobsw1.fsf@gnu.org> <837ff0b931.fsf@gnu.org> <33d66ff1-7bf2-2ba5-29d9-b510bf1e344e@cs.ucla.edu> <1v60ud253m.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463857588 32290 80.91.229.3 (21 May 2016 19:06:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 19:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 21 21:06:28 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b4CEF-0005XD-8a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 May 2016 21:06:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41011 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b4CEE-00024E-IG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 May 2016 15:06:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60586) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b4CE9-00022Q-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2016 15:06:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b4CE3-0002jD-Fl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 May 2016 15:06:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39497) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b4CE3-0002j8-C7; Sat, 21 May 2016 15:06:15 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1329 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1b4CE0-0008Tt-5F; Sat, 21 May 2016 15:06:13 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from John Wiegley on Tue, 17 May 2016 23:09:08 -0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203932 Archived-At: > From: John Wiegley > Cc: Paul Eggert , Eli Zaretskii , p.stephani2@gmail.com, nilsb@google.com, emacs-devel > Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 23:09:08 -0700 > > >>>>> Glenn Morris writes: > > > "Blocking" is just the debbugs terminology. When I add something to this > > list, it is something I think needs "attention" before the release. (I tend > > to throw any obvious regression wrt to 24 on there.) "Attention" can mean > > someone taking 30 seconds to make an informed comment "this isn't an issue > > for 25.1 because X". (In which case they may want to shift it to #21966.) > > > I'd hope it would go without saying, but feel free to remove things If I > > disagree, I'll comment in the relevant report. > > Then by all means, let's please unblock all the bugs we can, so that we have a > real list of pressing issues to look at. Eli, if they don't look serious to > you, just unblock them, and we'll let others comment if they disagree after. Thanks to efforts by Paul and others, the current list is just this: 17693 24.3.91.1; desktop-save-mode disables option -nw 17976 24.3; url-retrieve-synchronously doesn't fallback to IPv4 19548 VC changes under-documented, needlessly incompatible 19717 24.4.50; printing.el still uses ps-eval-switch 20247 24.4; Emacs hangs at startup in desktop mode 21182 25.0.50; gnus: every other unread message is marked as read on 21650 24.5; mh-e keeps trying to open urls 21871 Emacs Lisp Mode (at least): spurious parens in column 0 don't get 21874 25.0.50; point-entered no longer works 22107 this-command-keys no longer returns prefix argument 22147 Obsolete search-forward-lax-whitespace 22295 viper-mode undo bug introduced between Nov 10 and Nov 14 22338 25.0.50; deactivate-mark regression 22434 25.0.50; recentf pastes X clipboard upon opening 22795 25.0.91; Can't write read only file on w32 23050 package.el overwrites symlinks when saving "(package-initialize)" 23360 bug fonts display overlap all versions 23519 25.0.93; pasting with the middle mouse button while searching Here's my suggestions for how to treat these: 17693 -- patch was proposed, suggest to push and close the bug 17976 -- missing feature, shouldn't be blocking 19548 -- not clear what should be done there; shouldn't block 19717 -- patch was proposed, suggest to push and close 20247 -- for Emacs 25.1, suggest to default desktop-restore-in-current-display to t, and then release the block 21182 -- not serious enough to block the release 21650 -- AFAIU is now a n MH-E issue, so shouldn't block the release 21871 -- not serious enough to block the release 21874 -- looks like a minor issue to me, certainly not worthy of blocking 22107 -- less than a minor issue, given the behavior is perceived correct 22147 -- not serious enough to block the release 22295 -- solution exists on a branch; suggest to merge it and close 22338 -- minor issue that happens in rare situations; shouldn't block 22434 -- sounds serious; could someone please work on this one? 22795 -- I'm waiting for the OP to present more info 23050 -- Glenn suggested a solution, I suggest to accept it 23360 -- I will add a variable to allow to work around the problem 23519 -- a solution was proposed, so we can solve this If no one objects, 6 bugs can be solved and closed, 9 should be removed from the blocking list, 2 I will solve, and 1 (22434) awaits someone to work and fix.