From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Adding streams for standard out and standard err
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:50:29 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83eg6mxj2i.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bn1q3g2h.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk)
> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 21:13:26 +0100
>
> > Maybe that's all we need: a small wrapper around append-to-file.
>
> Actually, adding a new stream was your idea...
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2016-06/msg00207.html
It said "IF you want more flexibility". It's not clear to me what
additional flexibility is being gained by your suggestions.
> Yes, you are probably correct, that append-to-file could be used,
> without resorting to new C primitives. However, all the functionality
> that we need is already in the C layer. Also append-to-file (or rather
> write-region) would need updating to not send messages.
Nowadays avoiding the message just needs to bind inhibit-message to a
non-nil value.
Anyway, this is a minor issue. If I'm the only one who thinks new
primitives are unnecessary, then I won't fight the addition. However,
if we do add them, perhaps we need to test the file descriptor for
validity and/or being different from the terminal output device, and
provide some helpful diagnostics if it isn't, because I don't really
believe in people being aware of the pitfalls. E.g., I many times
"rediscover" the problem when I need to debug a TTY session of Emacs.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-22 6:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-20 22:48 Adding streams for standard out and standard err Phillip Lord
2016-07-21 7:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-21 18:42 ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-25 7:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-07-21 14:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-21 14:40 ` Paul Eggert
2016-07-21 15:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-21 19:01 ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-21 18:52 ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-21 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-21 20:13 ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-22 6:50 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-07-22 15:43 ` Phillip Lord
2016-07-21 22:15 ` Davis Herring
2016-08-02 23:35 ` John Wiegley
2016-07-22 14:48 ` Phil Sainty
2016-07-22 15:42 ` Phillip Lord
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