From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31597: 27.0.50; Annoying ' to =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=99?= translation Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 19:04:02 +0300 Message-ID: <83efhx84r1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20180527093215.6039.qmail@mail.muc.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527436988 27979 195.159.176.226 (27 May 2018 16:03:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 16:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 31597@debbugs.gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 27 18:03:04 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMy8N-00079n-3u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 18:03:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52560 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMyAS-00041U-Pd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:05:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44284) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMyAJ-000419-Ic for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMyAI-0005LT-OA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:43202) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMyAI-0005LI-Ko for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMyAI-00037k-8u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:05:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 16:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31597 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 31597-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31597.152743706211956 (code B ref 31597); Sun, 27 May 2018 16:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31597) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2018 16:04:22 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51099 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMy9e-00036k-4n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:04:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53153) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fMy9d-00036V-2M for 31597@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:04:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMy9U-0004XT-Nu for 31597@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:04:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51136) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fMy9U-0004XN-Kt; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:04:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2424 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fMy9U-0005Ta-3T; Sun, 27 May 2018 12:04:12 -0400 In-reply-to: <20180527093215.6039.qmail@mail.muc.de> (message from Alan Mackenzie on 27 May 2018 09:32:15 -0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:146593 Archived-At: > Date: 27 May 2018 09:32:15 -0000 > From: Alan Mackenzie > Cc: 31597@debbugs.gnu.org > > The person behind the change, Paul Eggert, simply pushed it through > without first securing agreement from Emacs as a whole, and had the > political skills to prevent a consensus on the matter prevailing. This misrepresents what Paul did and say, and I think is grossly unfair to him. I wish we avoided such ad-hominem attacks, just because we disagree.