From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Replace trivial pcase occurrences in the Emacs sources Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:20:26 +0200 Message-ID: <83efc5j539.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83tvlcsnee.fsf@gnu.org> <86mur137n8.fsf@gmail.com> <20181029130132.GB4195@ACM> <20181029134722.GC4195@ACM> <87lg6gifnb.fsf@web.de> <87muqwxs7m.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <83h8h3jlyd.fsf@gnu.org> <8b897e43-679b-d38c-e185-0efe19c09342@yandex.ru> <83y3aei08p.fsf@gnu.org> <83o9bahz6i.fsf@gnu.org> <83in1ihtox.fsf@gnu.org> <83h8h2hsoe.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1541013528 22753 195.159.176.226 (31 Oct 2018 19:18:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 19:18:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 31 20:18:44 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gHw0p-0005oM-Iw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 20:18:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33141 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHw2v-0001Pv-81 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:20:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42572) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHw2i-0001PX-LL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:20:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHw2h-0003Ji-UB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:20:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41671) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gHw2e-0003IK-VL; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:20:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2235 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gHw2d-0000kr-7X; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:20:36 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Yuri Khan on Thu, 1 Nov 2018 02:00:39 +0700) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:230900 Archived-At: > From: Yuri Khan > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 02:00:39 +0700 > Cc: Clément Pit-Claudel , > Emacs developers > > a “walking stick” is a stick that is used for walking, or a “thinking > cap” is a cap for thinking. They don’t walk and think on their own, > but are tools used in a specific activity. No, they are tools that help in that activity: the stick helps in walking, the hat helps thinking. By contrast, those patterns don't "help" destructuring in any way I could spot. In any case, even if we can find some convoluted justification for "destructuring patterns", I think it's worth our while to try to look for better terminology that doesn't need so many words to explain it, but instead speaks for itself.