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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: yyoncho@gmail.com, 38406@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#38406: 27.0.50; post-self-insert-hook does not hold its contract in cc-mode derived modes
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 10:06:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83eexhho8o.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191205201713.GC6252@ACM> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Thu,  5 Dec 2019 20:17:13 +0000)

> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2019 20:17:13 +0000
> Cc: yyoncho@gmail.com, 38406@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> 
> > We never provide any "safety nets" for silly hook functions, so we
> > shouldn't do that here as well.  OTOH, if someone puts a function on
> > those hooks which does something legitimate, we should meet their
> > expectations and let those functions run, as the contract says.
> 
> I think that, with my latest patch, that is the case.
> 
> > So I think you shouldn't filter anything from the hook before you run
> > it.
> 
> I thought you were urging me to do precisely that two or three posts ago.
> 
> I just tried taking a particular function off of
> c--unsafe-post-self-insert-hook-functions and enabling electric-pair
> mode.  On typing a brace, electric-pair-mode threw an obscure error.  It
> doesn't make sense to call electric-pair-post-self-insert-function twice
> for one keypress.  That is a good reason for having that function
> filtered out of the hook.

There might be a misunderstanding on my part here.  Could you please
explain how come electric-pair-post-self-insert-function is called
twice if it isn't removed from the hook? where's the second (or the
first) call?

> The root of the problem is the hook post-self-insert-hook.  It is a
> thoroughly bad idea.  The implications of introducing it a few years ago
> weren't thought through.

That might be so, but I think it's too late for removing it now.

> Assuming that removing this hook from Emacs isn't an option, we are
> left with ugly ad-hoc workarounds, such as the patch we're currently
> discussing.

Yes.





  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-06  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-27 20:00 bug#38406: 27.0.50; post-self-insert-hook does not hold its contract in cc-mode derived modes yyoncho
2019-11-30 14:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-01 10:02   ` yyoncho
2019-12-01 15:07     ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-01 15:27       ` yyoncho
2019-12-01 15:58         ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-01 18:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02 18:37             ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-01 17:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-01 19:27         ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-01 20:47           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02 18:31             ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-02 20:17               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-04 20:41             ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-04 21:04               ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-05 19:14                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-05 20:44                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-05 14:45               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-05 19:09                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-05 19:25                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-05 20:17                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-06  8:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-12-06 18:28                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-06 18:48                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06 22:24                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-07  8:21                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07 11:40                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-12-07 13:27                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07 19:03                                     ` Alan Mackenzie

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