From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Improve Malayalam language transliteration Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 20:12:57 +0300 Message-ID: <83eesa5fxi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d07ul5m1.fsf@gmx.net> <83r1wa5k1w.fsf@gnu.org> <87tv161aml.fsf@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="125050"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: James Thomas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 26 19:15:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jSksO-000WRH-Au for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 19:15:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39006 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSksN-0003cb-7O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 13:15:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55792) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSkrU-0001wv-6w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 13:14:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47348) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jSkrT-00023r-Vg; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 13:14:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3372 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jSkpz-00084n-MU; Sun, 26 Apr 2020 13:13:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87tv161aml.fsf@gmx.net> (message from James Thomas on Sun, 26 Apr 2020 21:51:06 +0530) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247850 Archived-At: > From: James Thomas > Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 21:51:06 +0530 > > >> -(if nil > >> - (quail-define-package "malayalam-itrans" "Malayalam" "MlmIT" t "Malayalam ITRANS")) > >> -(quail-define-indian-trans-package > >> - indian-mlm-itrans-v5-hash "malayalam-itrans" "Malayalam" "MlmIT" > >> - "Malayalam transliteration by ITRANS method.") > > > > I'm not sure I understand: does this delete the ITRANS method? Would > > it make sense to leave it, and just add the new one? And please also > > note that lisp/language/indian.el references the malayalam-itrans > > method; should that be changed as well? > > Yes this does delete and replace it. I guess we could keep the ITRANS > method also, but it's practically unusable for Malayalam (given its > uniqueness and quirks) and not even defined for all its characters - for e.g., > the common characters ള (La), ഴ (zha), റ (rra) are missing. As I > understand it, it was developed for Devanagari and was easily adapted > to similar Indian languages. The Mozhi scheme is a way of expanding it > to support Malayalam. That's okay, but we don't like deleting existing capabilities without some period during which it's deprecated. So maybe say in NEWS that ITRANS is deprecated, and add a comment in quail/indian.el that it should be removed in some future release. > Sorry I missed the reference in lisp/language/indian.el. It seems to be > just defining the default input method for the language. Can be changed > easily if decided. If you think this new method is much better, it's okay to make it the default, I think. Just mention that in NEWS. Thanks. P.S. And please keep the list address on the CC, so that this discussion is recorded.