From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41021: [PATCH] New command apropos-function Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 14:52:59 +0300 Message-ID: <83ees2tuxw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83h7wytxaf.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9le4lil.fsf@stefankangas.se> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="35900"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 41021@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 02 13:54:09 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqif-0009Fy-0G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 13:54:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49152 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqie-0004qi-3D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:54:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqiY-0004og-DZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqiX-0003zX-V7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:54:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39918) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqiX-0003yu-Hm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:54:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqiX-0000Ht-HX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:54:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 11:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41021 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 41021-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41021.15884203961053 (code B ref 41021); Sat, 02 May 2020 11:54:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41021) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2020 11:53:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51464 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqho-0000Gv-6s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:53:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47308) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqhm-0000Gi-80 for 41021@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:53:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55588) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqhg-0002Xi-Rn; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:53:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3391 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqhf-0003tc-Pg; Sat, 02 May 2020 07:53:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87v9le4lil.fsf@stefankangas.se> (message from Stefan Kangas on Sat, 02 May 2020 13:35:46 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179498 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Kangas > Cc: 41021@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 13:35:46 +0200 > > >> I think a new command would help make this feature more > >> discoverable, especially to beginners. > > > > We are being told many beginners don't even want to use the apropos commands. > > I would disagree with that statement; on the contrary, apropos is an > important tool /particularly/ to beginners. I'm sure you agree. I agree, but I also think that beginners are first looking for commands, not for functions. It's use more experienced users who start writing Lisp programs that need to look up functions that are not commands. Anyway, I will let other speak their minds.