From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45072: 28.0.50; Emacs switches other buffer back uncontrollably, if other window's buffer is changed by user during minibuffer editing Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 18:08:40 +0200 Message-ID: <83eek0701j.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86eek3hvu5.fsf@protected.rcdrun.com> <87eek1fvgf.fsf@gnus.org> <83eek18ref.fsf@gnu.org> <835z5d8lhc.fsf@gnu.org> <87lfe8jsok.fsf@gnus.org> <9286deee-b549-0441-9571-e7d712c5fdd5@gmx.at> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36398"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 45072@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 08 17:09:30 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfYO-0009JI-Kt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 17:09:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42090 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfYN-0003IC-DF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:09:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfXy-0003Hz-Qd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:09:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47762) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfXy-0002mr-J0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:09:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfXy-0007oA-BH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 16:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45072 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 45072-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45072.160744373830003 (code B ref 45072); Tue, 08 Dec 2020 16:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45072) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2020 16:08:58 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59308 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfXu-0007nq-Dk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:08:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37190) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfXr-0007nb-Ar for 45072@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:08:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53270) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfXl-0002hU-AE; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:08:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3863 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kmfXk-0007JO-Ey; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 11:08:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Jean Louis on Tue, 8 Dec 2020 17:58:40 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:195376 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 17:58:40 +0300 > From: Jean Louis > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Eli Zaretskii , > 45072@debbugs.gnu.org > > I would prefer by default not to switch windows for me as if I am user > and switched the other buffer why would I need it automatically back? > I switched it because I do not need it. > > Please understand how it is to work in a loop in minibuffer, many > coordinates have to be entered carefully and various maps consulted, > and then even though buffers were switched there and back on each new > invocation of minibuffer prompt all those buffers go away. > > >From the view point of having user control, I would rather have that > option turned off by default. I understand your POV, but we cannot possibly change such a long-standing behavior by default. It must start as an opt-in behavior. Later, when enough people tried it and said they'd like it to be the default, we might start thinking about making it the default.