From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On Contributing To Emacs Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 19:11:29 +0200 Message-ID: <83ee5vjpz2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <877dbpvsee.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ee5wutyr.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6gjhcc0.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgojskna.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y243pouk.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v8z7sgsy.fsf@yahoo.com> <87tuerpm20.fsf@telefonica.net> <87mtkjsevb.fsf@yahoo.com> <48488c37-1712-c83a-3464-80365d746a5a@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7483"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 29 18:18:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n2cax-0001mt-Me for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 18:18:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37760 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2caw-0001yd-Md for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 12:18:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46010) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2cU5-0001kf-9m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 12:11:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=45336 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2cU3-00064w-RQ; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 12:11:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=cVS9pRivWvQottO7F6ObVl/xh5VGCnFZdx/h5JMPU2k=; b=MBxLK7MWDS7QNapNnzUc B/HxosfPBMu9W5IFlHuCwZgyjkG+G2p0NkeWgZKQIHabk/HCo724o81buRzbKTHW/gRVoh9a5iwta ecr8GJgF8oEIxu/0uQbkz44xOgHYHIbYbkHaKfiEAku4PjA2byUtpcbh27i7fRghvx+xAGicV8gG2 NrWMwp2DmusRDclF1UN+vHL6uwzDXEfRs2587c4Vew4bUsu532GzdOtKWNYiJuR132BaTjLwBhHR6 K2mJ4aRfHDsbOcgbN7VxOb83z+tSRBpbQYjT0v7DtfYJyJuhkbq1kchpzoRr5ErA9eJThUoBMojkJ 0/0mr3pBYzafGw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2365 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n2cU2-0004nI-JG; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 12:11:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: (emacs-devel@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:283578 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:45:34 +0100 (CET) > From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." > > Dec 29, 2021, 18:16 by dgutov@yandex.ru: > > > Some people plainly refuse to consider usability problems with our current workflow, or try to learn from alternatives. > > > > Nothing new here, but I'm sad to see that every time. > > > > I really can't wrap my head around that kind of "everything is perfect" > attitude.  It's paradoxical. > Can think of an improvement?  Say it. > Is it a non-priority?  add-to-list > Why waste time arguing otherwise? Please respect the views of others as much as you'd like others to respect yours. Even (and especially) if you disagree with their views. That includes (a) assuming they write in good faith, not to "waste your time"; and (b) not representing their views as something obviously non-sensical. TIA