From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bigger fringe bitmaps Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 08:22:13 +0200 Message-ID: <83ee2zhjai.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sfrhu6et.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> <87h77xpgg6.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wngtf2hb.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> <83mthpgfao.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfrhklob.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> <83lex9gc3y.fsf@gnu.org> <87o824lwy7.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> <83k0cshh43.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsngl0ue.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1730"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuri D'Elia Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 18 07:23:49 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nV61c-0000H6-FO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2022 07:23:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33450 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nV61b-0004Z1-10 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2022 02:23:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nV60A-0003qr-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2022 02:22:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=43756 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nV609-00023W-G3; Fri, 18 Mar 2022 02:22:17 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ow5+N+yW1K+G8gfUMAjpgIETfjhtPSBB4j5RLVgQdW8=; b=PO9AQ6So1wI7 I7CBovNWfB8QAuugladb5ORsu2ufnaXHJwJhzwFJFgcMCIeaea0IxgL/fxW1qb5hMJQlPyQS1UwXx 135IAQ8biwani9UVQJeBxCLN51DOyHuHwvntwfU0Zz7SUR6WXK5G/pEbcYFccGDy8KsDjEFhbstXw JdtXJGoq5O9Lq+Amy/niRRXxujoKvgOTuuNe2qX211T40XOSF/ujThhhVGKlDu5Iiei1by451q2YO cBZFTsw3V5EqxmfniOKpUQa31OxW6sdIbERevyCIDshyvFJa+ar587l+t9M2pQeDe8EBTQik0Jlr8 kRNU5lyFfa1PltEIHz6ZNQ==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2663 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nV608-0006Sl-CC; Fri, 18 Mar 2022 02:22:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fsngl0ue.fsf@wavexx.thregr.org> (message from Yuri D'Elia on Thu, 17 Mar 2022 22:21:14 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:287267 Archived-At: > From: Yuri D'Elia > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 22:21:14 +0100 > > On Thu, Mar 17 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> I agree it's more powerful, but the overlay-arrow shares the same space > >> with the buffer, so it can hide existing information. I like the fact > >> that the fringe is a minimal, non-shared, space. > > > > How would you go about not sharing the screen space with the buffer, > > when the display is a TTY? What else is there that we could use > > instead? > > First/last column reserved when the "tty fringe" is on. On one hand, > potentially more wasteful than the overlay-arrow. On the other, it would > be guaranteed to be a single-character only (and any character there > wouldn't overlap - making it clearly distinct). How many hours will pass before someone requests a capability to use more than just a single column? We already use two with "=>", so going down to one with something like ">" will probably be considered a regression by some. So I think the current situation is better on balance.