From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org, larsi@gnus.org,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rlb@defaultvalue.org
Subject: Re: Finalizing 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation'
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 10:08:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83edrfaxp9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86wn57bmjt.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (message from Stephen Leake on Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:11:18 -0800)
> From: Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>, Lars Ingebrigtsen
> <larsi@gnus.org>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, Rob
> Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org>
> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:11:18 -0800
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Here are the questions I think we want to be answered to finalize the
> > implementation and effects of 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation':
> >
> > . Do people actually use 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' or
> > the corresponding environment variable? If so, for what reasons,
> > and why tweaking 'native-comp-eln-load-path' to direct the *.eln
> > files to some other place, including the temporary-file directory,
> > was not enough?
>
> I do.
>
> When running Emacs ada-mode tests, I spawn lots of Emacsen. If each one
> tries to native compile stuff, it just slows down the tests.
>
> I could try to ensure the stuff is native compiled first, but that's a
> maintenance burden.
Disabling async native-compilation was supported before we introduced
this variable (via native-comp-deferred-compilation) and will continue
being supported, for several valid reasons. Removing that capability
is not on the table.
I understand that if inhibiting native-compilation would still produce
trampolines in the rare cases where they are needed, it will not do
any significant harm to your use case, is that right?
> > . What do we want to do about compiling trampolines when
> > native-compilation is disabled?
>
> What is the name of the "temporary directory" that is not deleted on
> Windows? I can check it see if is created when I run my tests.
It's the system temporary directory, the one that's the value of
temporary-file-directory. And it isn't the directory that is not
deleted, it's the comp-lambda-*.eln files (and maybe also *.eln files
under different names, like *--trampoline-*.eln) in that directory.
> > . Do we want to keep the EMACS_INHIBIT_AUTOMATIC_NATIVE_COMPILATION
> > environment variable?
>
> I don't need this for my use case.
Thanks for the feedback.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-28 8:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-27 12:57 Finalizing 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-27 14:19 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-01-27 23:11 ` Stephen Leake
2023-01-27 23:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-28 0:32 ` Stephen Leake
2023-01-28 8:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 8:08 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-01-29 21:42 ` Stephen Leake
2023-01-27 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-28 9:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 17:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-28 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 17:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-28 17:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 18:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-28 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-28 21:41 ` Andy Moreton
2023-01-29 6:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-29 11:46 ` Andy Moreton
2023-01-28 22:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-29 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-29 14:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-29 15:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-30 2:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-30 12:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-30 14:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-30 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-30 17:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-31 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2023-01-31 14:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-01 5:04 ` Richard Stallman
2023-02-04 19:55 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-04 20:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-04 22:05 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-05 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-05 16:22 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-06 10:15 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-06 10:25 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-06 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-06 13:37 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-06 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-06 14:29 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-06 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-07 3:57 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-06 15:26 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-02 5:18 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-02 7:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02 16:17 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-06 10:57 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-06 14:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-07 3:39 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-07 12:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09 8:40 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-09 10:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09 21:07 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-10 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-10 8:37 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-10 16:53 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-10 17:34 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-11 8:11 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-11 10:06 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-11 10:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-12 16:47 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-12 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-12 19:58 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-12 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 10:36 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-14 13:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 22:39 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-16 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 10:16 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-17 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-18 21:48 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-19 9:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-20 9:14 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09 21:05 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-10 8:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-10 22:13 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-11 9:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-13 22:57 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-14 5:17 ` tomas
2023-02-14 13:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 11:29 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-14 17:11 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-16 18:10 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-17 9:00 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-17 16:42 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-17 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 21:13 ` Bug#1021842: " Tatsuya Kinoshita
2023-02-18 21:56 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-19 4:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-20 9:03 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 12:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-20 15:42 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 16:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-20 20:22 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 16:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-20 20:29 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 12:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-20 16:07 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 17:24 ` tomas
2023-02-07 13:56 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-07 15:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-07 15:27 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-09 7:26 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-09 7:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-10 8:04 ` Aymeric Agon-Rambosson
2023-02-10 8:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-10 17:02 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-02 5:40 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-02 8:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02 8:41 ` tomas
2023-02-02 9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-02 16:28 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-02 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-09 21:12 ` Sean Whitton
2023-02-04 17:48 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2023-02-04 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-06 10:21 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 12:05 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-13 15:21 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-13 16:15 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 19:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-13 19:34 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 20:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-13 21:53 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-13 23:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-14 8:56 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-14 11:32 ` Andrea Corallo
[not found] ` <166586215062.368699.18398270685158383578.reportbug@convex>
2023-02-19 14:31 ` Bug#1021842: " Tatsuya Kinoshita
2023-02-20 9:18 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-20 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-20 20:50 ` Bug#1021842: " Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-20 21:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-20 22:17 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-20 22:02 ` Bug#1021842: " Tatsuya Kinoshita
2023-02-21 15:40 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-14 3:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 3:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-14 8:55 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-02-14 13:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 15:09 ` Stefan Monnier
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