From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 00:04:09 +0300 Message-ID: <83d3vwj73q.fsf@gnu.org> References: "83mxv0je2b.fsf@gnu.org" <4C13F491.9070100@gmx.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276376666 11961 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2010 21:04:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: grischka Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 12 23:04:25 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONXsO-0003Om-Ph for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:04:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42618 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONXsO-0006t2-7y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:04:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48377 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONXsD-0006qJ-M6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:04:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONXsB-0007G3-Lo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:04:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:41254) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONXsB-0007Fc-EC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:04:11 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L3X00B006IV5200@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 00:04:09 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.88.125]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L3X00A156IW8K30@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 00:04:08 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <4C13F491.9070100@gmx.de> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125859 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:56:49 +0200 > From: grischka > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > If cursor motion is visual by default, one cannot even mark text > > by holding Shift and moving point with the arrow keys. > > That is not true of course. You'd do it just the same as when > you select text with the mouse. Mouse selection is also logical-order. So yes, it's ``the same'', but not in the way you seem to think.