From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 21:39:38 +0200 Message-ID: <83d2zt40p1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83fw4p46nd.fsf@gnu.org> <83ehk94475.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352057991 18850 80.91.229.3 (4 Nov 2012 19:39:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dani Moncayo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 04 20:40:00 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TV636-0000FK-8x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 20:40:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51057 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TV62x-0004wJ-G2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 14:39:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37986) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TV62v-0004wE-74 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 14:39:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TV62u-0008S8-5b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 14:39:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:51645) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TV62t-0008Rx-TE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 14:39:48 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MCZ00E00ALA4000@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 21:39:46 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MCZ00DFUAM9CBB0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 04 Nov 2012 21:39:46 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154675 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 20:10:39 +0100 > From: Dani Moncayo > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > If we agree that it would be better to adopt the widely accepted > approach of a moving view port (over an static text) What "widely accepted approach"? Most applications don't have names for the commands invoked by keys, they just use "PageDown" the key name. There isn't much prior art here, we are on our own. > Consistency and uniformity are good programming principles that make > things simpler to learn and remember. So these principles should be > followed unless there is a good reason not to. And there are good reasons in this case, as others in this thread pointed out.