From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18308: 24.4.50; Info viewer cannot follow menu entry for '(texinfo) @- @hyphenation' Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:36:14 +0300 Message-ID: <83d2btav4x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <80wqa132j3.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408689442 432 80.91.229.3 (22 Aug 2014 06:37:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 06:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: gavinsmith0123@gmail.com, 18308@debbugs.gnu.org To: Vincent =?UTF-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 22 08:37:15 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XKiTL-0005eT-8M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 08:37:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35337 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKiTK-0004wP-Rj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:37:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47066) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKiTD-0004wA-Lf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:37:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKiT8-0001HL-Ce for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:37:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42320) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XKiT8-0001HH-93 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XKiT7-0006JE-JY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:37:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 06:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18308 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18308-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18308.140868939024199 (code B ref 18308); Fri, 22 Aug 2014 06:37:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18308) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Aug 2014 06:36:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49263 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XKiSb-0006IE-FI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:36:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:49667) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XKiSY-0006Hw-3u for 18308@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 02:36:28 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NAP00H003FFI600@mtaout26.012.net.il> for 18308@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:34:43 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NAP00CFW3LOK550@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 09:34:37 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <80wqa132j3.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:92589 Archived-At: > From: Vincent Belaïche > Cc: 18308@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:23:44 +0200 > > During the discussion on bug-texinfo@gnu.org concerning texinfo > bug#43042, I received the following comment from Gavin Smith: > > > I don't think it is actually the case that references should use > > normalized whitespace. For example, there is the following in the bash > > manual, node "Shell Operation": > > > > 3. Parses the tokens into simple and compound commands (*note Shell > > Commands::). > > > > Here we have a newline and initial line indent in the middle of the > > node name "Shell Commands", but following this cross-reference works > > fine. > > I a nutshell, there are cases of node references where the info viewer > is not bothered by internal multiple spaces (this cross reference inside > bash manual), and other cases where the info viewer cannot handle it > (the case of node "(texinfo) @- @hyphenation" pointer in menu entry of > upper node). Emacs already does all that, of course. Just not in the case of the menu entries, where the node names are not expected to span more than one line. > So, on second thoughts, I am thinking in the end that for consistency, > the info viewer not only should, but also _must_ be corrected. As I said, maybe. But the fact is that the _Texinfo_source_ of the Texinfo manual uses different amounts of blanks in this node's name. So line breaking and filling in the Info file is not the issue here. > I am even speculating that in the case of the manual menu entry, > probably it was intentional to put more spaces for the entry to read > better (as @- and @hyphenation are two different commands, isn't it a > good idea to put a little more space between them). The problem is _inconsistency_, not extra blanks. The number of blanks should have been consistent in all the uses of this node name.