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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is it time to remove INTERNAL_FIELD?
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:29:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83d22u278u.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sibr2b10.fsf@gmail.com>

> From: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
> Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 16:07:39 +0200
> 
> > What this macro does is allow you to use field names like 'foo', when
> > the field is really called 'foo_'.
> >
> > I think it's okay to remove INTERNAL_FIELD, but I think we should keep
> > the trailing underscore appended in BVAR and KVAR.
> [...]
> I'm totally fine with this:
> 
>     INLINE void
>     kset_last_kbd_macro (struct kboard *kb, Lisp_Object val)
>     {
>       kb->Vlast_kbd_macro_ = val;
>     }
> 
> just as I'm fine with this:
> 
>     INLINE void
>     kset_last_kbd_macro (struct kboard *kb, Lisp_Object val)
>     {
>       kb->Vlast_kbd_macro = val;
>     }

We are talking past each other.  I wasn't talking about
kset_last_kbd_macro etc, I was talking about expressions that
explicitly mention field names.  Like this one:

  foo->name = bar;

or this:

  BVAR (foo, name) = bar;

or this:

  buffer_name = BVAR (foo, name);

It's the "name" part that I care about.

If "BVAR (foo, name)" expands into "foo->name_", then no code can use
bar->name anywhere without triggering a compilation error.  But I, as
code write, can still call the field "name" and use it in my code, and
have the preprocessor append the underscore for me.

> It's not obvious how simple or intricate INTERNAL_FIELD is or what it
> does. At the first glance, looks like C++ member function call.

And what's wrong with that?  For someone who programs in C++, and
should therefore be ready to accept overloaded operators that can
compute the end of the world as part of their processing, how do you
know, in C++, that "->" is not overloaded to do just that?



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-23 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-23  9:55 Is it time to remove INTERNAL_FIELD? Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 10:08 ` Paul Eggert
2015-04-23 10:10   ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 10:17     ` Paul Eggert
2015-04-23 10:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 10:56         ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 11:17           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 11:32             ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 12:01               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 12:05                 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 12:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-25 10:57                     ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-25 11:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-25 14:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-25 14:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28  7:39                             ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-28 13:20                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28 15:07                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 15:11                                 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-28 15:23                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 18:58                                     ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-28 19:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 11:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 13:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-23 13:30   ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 13:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 14:07       ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 14:50         ` Nicolas Richard
2015-04-23 15:34           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-24 10:44             ` Nicolas Richard
2015-04-23 15:29         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-04-23 16:32           ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 17:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 17:09               ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 17:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 17:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-23 17:31               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-23 13:33   ` Oleh Krehel

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