From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: progmodes/project.el and search paths Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 22:23:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83d1z2uach.fsf@gnu.org> References: <55BE209F.1000009@siege-engine.com> <55BE509B.2080307@yandex.ru> <87r3nkjxby.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <55BF7619.1050701@yandex.ru> <87mvy8jvlh.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <55BF8522.4010009@yandex.ru> <87lhdsys13.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <55BFF764.2030002@yandex.ru> <83mvy7tbit.fsf@gnu.org> <55C0FEEB.7040500@yandex.ru> <83h9oeudfs.fsf@gnu.org> <55C1074E.90103@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438716239 28389 80.91.229.3 (4 Aug 2015 19:23:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 19:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, deng@randomsample.de, eric@siege-engine.com To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 04 21:23:45 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMhoO-0001CH-SA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 21:23:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36876 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMhoO-0001BB-3U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:23:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35506) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMho7-00019S-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:23:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMho1-0006B6-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:23:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout27.012.net.il ([80.179.55.183]:50536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZMho1-00068O-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 15:23:21 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout27.012.net.il by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NSK00F00OE2XJ00@mtaout27.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 22:20:42 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout27.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NSK005ADOEIAE90@mtaout27.012.net.il>; Tue, 04 Aug 2015 22:20:42 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <55C1074E.90103@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:188407 Archived-At: > Cc: deng@randomsample.de, eric@siege-engine.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:41:18 +0300 > > On 08/04/2015 09:16 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > So project.el is supposed to allow extracting information from > > projects, but is not supposed to help in defining a project? > > If I understand you right, it is not. It is not what? There are 2 parts to that sentence, which one are you refuting (or confirming)? If you are saying that both parts of what I said are correct, then why did you and Stephen spend so many time discussing how to define those pieces of information for a project? It shouldn't be part of the job; instead, you should look at what information is provided as part of defining a project by different means out there, for example, in a Makefile. E.g., there are a couple of standard ways to specify in a Makefile the directories where the project's files live. Other significant parts of a project's information in a Makefile are recipes to build the project, to install/uninstall it, to clean the tree, etc. Also, various standard commands, like compilation command, link command, a command that creates a library and a manual, etc. These are all clear candidates for "project information an interested Lisp program would like to extract", no?