From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to determine (from Elisp) whether the Emacs frame has focus? Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:36:02 +0200 Message-ID: <83d1vcexdp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87fv09o9p5.fsf@mbork.pl> <83twopdmz4.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447499663 32439 80.91.229.3 (14 Nov 2015 11:14:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:14:23 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 14 12:14:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxYmc-0007Cc-3d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:14:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33881 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxYma-0007Ox-VW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 06:14:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47148) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxXFo-0007kF-AA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:36:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxXFl-0002W4-4F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:36:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:40875) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZxXFk-0002Vz-Sn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:36:13 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NXS00300T28X800@mtaout29.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:35:31 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NXS002WRTB7N710@mtaout29.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 11:35:31 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.185 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108062 Archived-At: > From: Random832 > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2015 03:36:03 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > I'm probably missing something very important, because I don't > > understand what you are looking for. The selected frame by definition > > has focus, at least AFAIK. What am I missing? > > Well that may be true who never leave their Emacs instance, but for the > rest of us some non-Emacs application might have focus instead. Ah, so he meant detect when some other application has focus? That's what I was missing, thanks. Then I don't understand why the solution of focus-in/out-hook was rejected as "hackish". These hooks are there precisely for situations like these, AFAIK. IMO, there's nothing hackish about that. > (Also I suspect by "selected" he meant a frame the programmer "selects" > to pass in to e.g. a function that answers the question, rather than > selected-frame.) I indeed feel there might still be aspects of the original question that need to be further clarified.