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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Questions about isearch
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 22:10:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83d1uxx2k2.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87egfdant7.fsf@gmx.us>

> From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 20:20:20 +0100
> 
> > 1. Character folding doesn't catch ligatures, such as æ (should it match
> > the two characters "ae")?
> 
> In Danish I would not consider this a ligature, but a separate letter.  It
> can be written as ae, however.  Thus, it would probably be nice to match
> it via ’ae’.  But where to stop?  How about ’å’ (matched by ’a’)?  Should
> it be captured by "aa"?  Ø by ’oe’?  There’s also ’œ’...
> 
> Probably there’s lots of these weird cases.

Please read the node "Lax Search" in the Emacs manual.  That ship
sailed several months ago, and Emacs already supports "character
folding", and thus yes, 'a' matches 'å' (and also 'ä' and 'á' and 'ǎ'
and many others).  We don't make these matches language dependent,
because Emacs is a multi-lingual environment, and most text is not
tagged with a particular language.  So we use language-independent
folding, and AFAIU "ae" should have matched 'æ' under the rules we
use.  But it doesn't.  (Similarly "ff" and 'ff' and others.)

> > 2. It also doesn't match ä (a single character) with ä (2 characters,
> > which Emacs correctly composes into 1 grapheme cluster).  Should it?
> 
> This reminds me: UTF-8 "stroked through a" (a̶) is also displayed as ä
> rather than the stroke through a Emacs on my system.  But this is probably
> a different issue.

Display is a different issue, indeed.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-25 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-25 18:41 Questions about isearch Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 19:20 ` Rasmus
2015-11-25 20:02   ` Steinar Bang
2015-11-26 14:46     ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-26 16:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 20:46         ` Per Starbäck
2015-11-26 21:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 21:35             ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-27  7:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27  6:38             ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-27  8:53               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 16:21               ` raman
2015-11-26 23:18           ` Rasmus
2015-11-27  7:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27  6:37         ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-27  8:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 20:10   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-11-25 20:41     ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-25 20:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 20:14 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-25 20:30   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-25 20:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 21:58       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-25 23:04         ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-26  3:40           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 19:50             ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-27 20:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 23:57                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28  1:36                 ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-28  9:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-26 13:28         ` Steinar Bang
2015-11-25 20:36   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-25 21:49     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-26  3:34       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 12:03     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-27 14:36       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 16:50         ` Per Starbäck
2015-11-27 18:10           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-27 18:42             ` Per Starbäck
2015-11-27 21:33           ` raman
2016-02-28  0:27           ` Mathias Dahl
2016-02-28 15:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-28 17:52               ` Mathias Dahl
2016-02-28 18:02                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-29 13:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-29 16:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-03-01 16:52                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-27 16:55         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-27 17:52           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 21:18           ` Stephen Berman
2015-11-28  0:04             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28  7:49               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 16:14               ` Stephen Berman
2015-11-28  5:36             ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-28  8:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28  8:40               ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-11-28  9:46                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 10:23                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 11:14                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 14:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 15:41                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 16:29                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 17:27                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 17:44                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 18:31                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 18:57                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 20:00                                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 20:08                                   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-28 20:47                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-28 16:48                     ` character folding future [was: Questions about isearch] Drew Adams
2015-11-28 18:34                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-01 11:34                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-01 15:48                         ` Drew Adams
2015-12-03 23:54                           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-29  6:03                     ` Questions about isearch Richard Stallman
2015-11-29 15:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-29  9:39                     ` Andreas Röhler
2015-11-29 15:52                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30  9:39                         ` Andreas Röhler
2015-11-30 15:53                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-30 16:05                       ` Paul Eggert
2015-11-26 16:08   ` Rasmus
2015-11-25 23:15 ` Mike Kupfer
2015-11-26 14:45 ` Richard Stallman
2015-11-27  0:43 ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-27  8:07   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 23:24     ` Juri Linkov
2015-11-28  8:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27  8:02 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-11-27  8:57   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 10:03     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-27 10:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-27 10:47         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-29  9:08       ` Andreas Röhler

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