From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23186: closed (Re: bug#23186: 25.0.92; Tramp: Windows does not always set COMSPEC, tramp blows up in a string-match) Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 17:54:21 +0300 Message-ID: <83d1q6rbdu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831t6nsyzy.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8lbpzbv.fsf@gmx.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1459695320 7538 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2016 14:55:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ja2038@gmail.com, 23186@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 03 16:55:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQi-000850-Ol for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 16:55:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53770 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQi-0005SD-8V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 10:55:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35889) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQe-0005Qn-GC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 10:55:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQc-0000Xr-NZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 10:55:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52956) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQc-0000Xn-KB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 10:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQc-0006u6-F3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 10:55:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23186 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23186-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23186.145969530026527 (code B ref 23186); Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:55:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23186) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2016 14:55:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50083 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQa-0006tn-1C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 10:55:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44887) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQY-0006tb-HX for 23186@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 10:54:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQP-0000Wq-Ii for 23186@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 10:54:53 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54663) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQP-0000Wm-FB; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 10:54:49 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3074 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1amjQO-0006uT-Ny; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 10:54:49 -0400 In-reply-to: <87a8lbpzbv.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Sat, 02 Apr 2016 21:47:48 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115930 Archived-At: > From: Michael Albinus > Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 21:47:48 +0200 > Cc: 23186@debbugs.gnu.org > > Make a proposal about a config option which could be used > instead of the COMSPEC env which doesn't exist in your environment. Make > a proposal how to avoid calling cmd.exe at all, it seems not be > mandatory, I believe. Propose something else what is possible. Let me try ;-) Can you (Michael) explain why does Tramp need this variable, and also why it needs the companion tramp-encoding-command-switch? Why not just use shell-file-name and shell-command-switch? Or, if you must look deeper, why not call w32-shell-name or w32-shell-dos-semantics? I think these already do what you need tramp-encoding-shell for, but maybe I'm missing something. If I'm right, and Tramp doesn't really need to calculate the shell's name separately from the rest of Emacs, then this problem will cease to be a "Tramp problem". That won't solve the larger problems the OP would have in Emacs, but at least Tramp will no longer be accused ;-)