From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] scratch/widen-less a4ba846: Replace prog-widen with consolidating widen calls Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 13:10:35 +0200 Message-ID: <83d13x1j2s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20171129233237.27462.23351@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20171129233238.504B5204F1@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <5d668ce5-1482-a3d4-c01b-7d996a532567@yandex.ru> <20171130214621.GA22157@ACM> <27985594-3bb4-ce88-8928-2ccfeac13eae@yandex.ru> <20171201154913.GB3840@ACM> <1e542021-e389-cca4-6acd-349efddb2652@yandex.ru> <20171201223529.GG3840@ACM> <4a94ec5c-efdd-50f1-ff4d-277f5f45c2df@yandex.ru> <83lgil1qme.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512213062 27787 195.159.176.226 (2 Dec 2017 11:11:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, tom@tromey.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, spinuvit@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 02 12:10:58 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eL5hA-0006lf-7X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 12:10:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35144 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eL5hH-0005o9-JE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 06:11:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43399) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eL5hB-0005o4-Os for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 06:10:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eL5h8-00014L-KN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 06:10:57 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46049) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eL5h8-00014G-GE; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 06:10:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4422 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eL5h7-0001mF-UX; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 06:10:54 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 2 Dec 2017 10:50:24 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220615 Archived-At: > Cc: acm@muc.de, tom@tromey.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, spinuvit@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 10:50:24 +0000 > > > IMO, C modes and Lisp modes must be supported well, before this lands > > on master. > > Why? Because Emacs is written in these 2 languages. Sorry, I thought that was clear. > Web languages are a lot more common in mixed mode buffers (think > HTML files and templates), so it's a lot more important to have that > support in them (and we already do). I expected those languages to be supported already, which is why I didn't mention them. > And, I'm sorry about this, but I want to land these changes in emacs-26, > for one main reason: it simplifies, reworks and replaces the > prog-indentation-context feature, which is not in Emacs 25. It's too late for landing such features on emacs-26. Sorry, it will have to wait until Emacs 27. Emacs 26 is nearing its release; the stream of serious bugs (or any bugs, actually) seems to have died out. So hopefully one more pretest, and we will be ready to go. Adding a significant new feature, which will no doubt need changes in other places, is incompatible with that.