From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Branch freezing for release Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:24:31 +0300 Message-ID: <83d0lrmmww.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871s3jeh8m.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87zhq4zzcz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871s3a90qo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87imvmbube.fsf@gmail.com> <87mukyiczg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877ec2iau1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <4CAA6D9F-0402-489C-8DD1-CE2ADBAA42C9@gnu.org> <87tvf69r16.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <4C62647A-5A71-4C82-9D37-ED933023AFC0@gnu.org> <83pnpt6cf9.fsf@gnu.org> <87pnpt4x0d.fsf@tcd.ie> <83mukx6ayb.fsf@gnu.org> <83lg0h67jb.fsf@gnu.org> <83imvl653m.fsf@gnu.org> <223fd85b-855c-dbbb-315f-9508e348926b@yandex.ru> <835zrk643r.fsf@gnu.org> <83bm1b4sch.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="73574"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 12 14:29:46 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hEvJS-000J1m-C6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 14:29:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35647 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hEvJR-0006Ub-1w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 08:29:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38513) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hEvEf-0000ub-T2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 08:24:50 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58851) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hEvEf-0001V9-FG; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 08:24:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1663 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1hEvEe-0005N4-U6; Fri, 12 Apr 2019 08:24:49 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Noam Postavsky on Fri, 12 Apr 2019 06:18:33 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:235337 Archived-At: > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2019 06:18:33 -0400 > Cc: Dmitry Gutov , Stefan Monnier , > Emacs developers > > > I'd hesitate to fix the number at 90 (or any other specific number), > > because sometimes .90 is not close enough. We could say .100, but > > AFAIR that happened only once or twice in the history, so it would not > > be helpful. The problem here is that the number is not determined by > > how close we think we are to the release, its correlation with that is > > very weak. > > Yes, the only way to know is to follow emacs-devel, so for someone who > doesn't follow the list, asking at anything above .90 is the only safe > recommendation, right? It's fine with me, but it would have meant that the emacs-26 branch was frozen from the second pretest, which probably is too conservative. I don't remember when we last started pretest with a number below 90, maybe only when Emacs 21 was in its pretest. But if others don't mind, neither do I.