From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Robert Alessi <alessi@robertalessi.net>
Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 36717@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:55:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83d0i6uqso.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190719095407.GB5734@robertalessi.net> (message from Robert Alessi on Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:54:07 +0200)
> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:54:07 +0200
> From: Robert Alessi <alessi@robertalessi.net>
> Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 36717@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > As of 2016, the latest versions of Unicode (as of 2016) have now
> > formally deprecated and removed the vowel+oxia combinations from the
> > Greek extended range, leaving only the vowel+tonos from the basic Greek
> > and Coptic range.
> >
> > is not really accurate?
>
> I would say so, to say the least, but I am still investigating. What
> is sure is that tonos originally does not encode the same as oxia.
> The former encodes a stress, while the latter encodes a pitch. This
> is undisputable. That said, the fact that the Greek government did
> decree that tonos shall be the same as oxia (to be taken cautiously, I
> am not a specialist of modern Greek) surely introduced a lot of
> confusion.
>
> For example, if one makes no distinction between the two, then it
> becomes harder to analyse large corpuses with a computer.
What do you mean by "makes no distinction"? Those are different
codepoints, regardless of how they look on display. So we definitely
_can_ distinguish between them.
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-18 9:03 bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 14:54 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 17:32 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:06 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 18:47 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:57 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 20:14 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:32 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 8:27 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 9:09 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:27 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 14:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 14:41 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 14:52 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 15:14 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 14:45 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 8:58 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 9:26 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 9:42 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 9:49 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 10:03 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 11:49 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 13:32 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:31 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 14:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-16 13:59 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-07-19 13:29 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 13:33 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 9:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 9:54 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-07-19 13:47 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:19 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 20:19 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:52 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 18:16 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 18:47 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 20:27 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:23 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 9:40 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 18:16 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 20:29 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
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