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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Robert Alessi <alessi@robertalessi.net>
Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 36717@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 15:55:51 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83d0i6uqso.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190719095407.GB5734@robertalessi.net> (message from Robert Alessi on Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:54:07 +0200)

> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:54:07 +0200
> From: Robert Alessi <alessi@robertalessi.net>
> Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 36717@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> >   As of 2016, the latest versions of Unicode (as of 2016) have now
> >   formally deprecated and removed the vowel+oxia combinations from the
> >   Greek extended range, leaving only the vowel+tonos from the basic Greek
> >   and Coptic range.
> > 
> > is not really accurate?
> 
> I would say so, to say the least, but I am still investigating.  What
> is sure is that tonos originally does not encode the same as oxia.
> The former encodes a stress, while the latter encodes a pitch.  This
> is undisputable.  That said, the fact that the Greek government did
> decree that tonos shall be the same as oxia (to be taken cautiously, I
> am not a specialist of modern Greek) surely introduced a lot of
> confusion.
> 
> For example, if one makes no distinction between the two, then it
> becomes harder to analyse large corpuses with a computer.

What do you mean by "makes no distinction"?  Those are different
codepoints, regardless of how they look on display.  So we definitely
_can_ distinguish between them.





  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-19 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-18  9:03 bug#36717: 25.3; greek.el: deprecated vowel+oxia combinations should be replaced with vowel+tonos counterparts Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 14:54 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 17:32   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:06     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 18:47       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:57         ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 20:14           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:32           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  6:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19  8:27               ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19  9:09                 ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:27                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 14:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 14:41                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 14:51                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 14:52                         ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 15:00                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 15:14                             ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 14:45                       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  8:58               ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  9:26                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19  9:42                   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  9:49                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 10:03                       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 11:49                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 13:32                           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19 13:31                           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 14:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-16 13:59                               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-07-19 13:29                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-19 13:33                           ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19  9:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-19  9:54                   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-07-19 13:47                       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 18:19     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 20:19       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:52         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 18:16   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 18:47     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 20:27       ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-18 20:23     ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19  9:40     ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-18 18:16 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-07-18 20:29   ` Robert Alessi
2019-07-19 12:40   ` Eli Zaretskii

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