From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36886: 26.2; (global-eldoc-mode -1) should disable eldoc completely Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 17:33:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83d0hnfxi7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h8719nzl.fsf@example.com> <83imrggjmo.fsf@gnu.org> <8736ijap0e.fsf@example.com> <83tvazg51s.fsf@gnu.org> <87pnln91dz.fsf@example.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="141927"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 36886@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sanel Zukan Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 02 16:34:23 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1htYdS-000aiY-Mc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 16:34:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35338 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htYdR-0004XJ-B4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:34:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39369) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htYdC-0004XB-Sj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htYdB-0008W6-UD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48723) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htYdA-0008T2-NL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:34:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htYd8-0004Av-Ct for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:34:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 36886 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 36886-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B36886.156475639915991 (code B ref 36886); Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:34:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 36886) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2019 14:33:19 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57544 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htYcR-00049q-D3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:33:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54930) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1htYcP-00049b-2T for 36886@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:33:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40250) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1htYcJ-00072d-UC; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:33:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3380 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1htYcG-0005CX-Au; Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:33:09 -0400 In-reply-to: <87pnln91dz.fsf@example.com> (message from Sanel Zukan on Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:51:04 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164359 Archived-At: > From: Sanel Zukan > Cc: 36886@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:51:04 +0200 > > > So this only happens in M-:. That wasn't evident from your original > > report. global-eldoc-mode generally shows the signatures when point > > is inside any defun or other def* forms, not only in the minibuffer. > > Hm... eldoc-message-function is part of eldoc package and I was hoping > that, by completely disabling eldoc-mode, it will revert whatever is > enabled when mode is initialized from that package. I guess different > views from user and developer points. I don't think this is about the differences in our views: I didn't say I considered the behavior you described correct (it isn't). My point was that your original report lacked some details, which caused me to think the problem was not reproducible, because my naïve attempt to reproduce it didn't use M-:. It is important to describe the recipe in enough detail to avoid that; please do that in the future.