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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: 23033@debbugs.gnu.org, mgsloan@gmail.com
Subject: bug#23033: 24.5; Lock file uses the same extension as the file it's locking
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 11:24:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83d0e19zcm.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmmRgDqA-f2Ls=jxFVPyD_nzy82Z3WMORhdLQTELrBAUvA@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Sat, 9 Nov 2019 10:12:11 +0100)

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
> Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2019 10:12:11 +0100
> Cc: Michael Sloan <mgsloan@gmail.com>, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>, 23033@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > I think we should only consider adding punctuation characters, because
> > that would ensure these lock files are displayed right next to the
> > files they lock, like today.  Moving the lock files away of the files
> > they lock in the directory listing would be a disadvantage, IMO.
> 
> On this MacOS machine, I see the following:
> 
> $ ls -al
> total 8
> drwxr-xr-x  11 skangas  staff   352 Nov  9 10:05 .
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 skangas  staff    33 Nov  9 10:05 .#foo ->
> skangas@example.org.795
> drwxr-xr-x  50 skangas  staff  1600 Nov  9 10:03 ..
> -rw-r--r--   1 skangas  staff     0 Nov  9 10:03 a
> -rw-r--r--   1 skangas  staff     0 Nov  9 10:03 e
> -rw-r--r--   1 skangas  staff     3 Nov  9 10:05 foo
> -rw-r--r--   1 skangas  staff     0 Nov  9 10:03 i
> -rw-r--r--   1 skangas  staff     0 Nov  9 10:03 z
> 
> In other words, the lock file is not next to the file it locks.  Are
> you seeing something else?

Yes.

Is the above Gnu 'ls'?  And what is your locale?

> How would the ordering differ with a suffix like ".lock" compared to
> "#" or some other punctuation character?  I would have thought that it
> would be very similar.  Maybe I'm missing something.

The default file sort order in UTF-8 locales ignores punctuation
characters.





  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-09  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-16 21:35 bug#23033: 24.5; Lock file uses the same extension as the file it's locking Michael Sloan
2016-03-19  2:09 ` Glenn Morris
2019-11-08  5:00   ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-08  6:17     ` Michael Sloan
2019-11-08 13:29       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 14:03         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-08 14:31           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 13:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-08 14:10       ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-08 19:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09  6:17         ` Michael Sloan
2019-11-09  7:45           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-09  9:12             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-09  9:24               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-11-09 23:37                 ` Michael Sloan
2019-11-14  9:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-16 23:23                     ` Michael Sloan
2021-09-25  0:06                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-25  1:49                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-25  2:10                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-25  2:27                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-25  2:59                         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-25  3:05                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-25  3:45                             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-26  5:28                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-26  6:31                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-26  6:34                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-26  7:17                                     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-26  8:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-26  8:37                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2022-04-18 11:30                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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