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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Andrii Kolomoiets <andreyk.mad@gmail.com>
Cc: alan@idiocy.org, tsuucat@icloud.com, 43948@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43948: 28.0.50; [PATHC][NS] Make s-<left/right> to move to beginning/end of line
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 10:05:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83d00hy947.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2r1oyxiuz.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Andrii Kolomoiets on Fri, 13 Nov 2020 01:20:36 +0200)

> From: Andrii Kolomoiets <andreyk.mad@gmail.com>
> Cc: tsuucat@icloud.com,  alan@idiocy.org,  43948@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 01:20:36 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> 2. M-: (set-frame-width nil 50)
> >> 3. M-<
> >> 4. M-x end-of-visual-line
> >> The point moved to the beginning of the next visual line
> >
> > What else did you expect, in a continued line?  There's no place to
> > show the cursor except at the beginning of the next screen line.
> 
> Well, sometimes the cursor is on the fringe.

Can't be done in this case, because the fringe is "taken" by the
continuation bitmap.

> With "bar" cursor type this leads to interesting behavior:
> emacs -Q
> M-: (set-frame-width nil 70)
> M-: (setq cursor-type 'bar)
> 
> Now it's easy to place the cursor after the "." on the first line:
> M-< C-e
> But it is not possible to place the cursor after last "e" on the second
> line.
> 
> IIRC it's because the cursor is actually "on" some character and not
> "before" or "after" it.

Technically, because we decide where to place the cursor before we
know what is the shape of the cursor.  And yes, we draw the cursor
inside a certain character cell (because that's what users generally
expect).

> And at the end of the first line the cursor is on the "new line"
> character.

Right.

> I didn't mean to say the behavior of the 'end-of-visual-line' function
> is wrong.  I tried to say that behavior of the 'end-of-visual-line'
> function outside the 'visual-line-mode' can be surprising for the users
> who press Command-<Right Arrow> to go to the end of the line.

Agreed.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-13  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-12 11:36 bug#43948: 28.0.50; [PATHC][NS] Make s-<left/right> to move to beginning/end of line Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-10-12 18:33 ` Alan Third
2020-10-13  6:48   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-10-13 20:35     ` Alan Third
2020-10-12 22:38 ` Unknown
2020-10-13  7:57   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-10-13 20:36     ` Alan Third
2020-10-14 10:15       ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-10-14 20:24         ` Alan Third
2020-10-14 20:48           ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-09 14:55             ` Alan Third
2020-10-20  9:55 ` bug#43948: 28.0.50; [PATCH][NS] " Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-20 12:33   ` Alan Third
2020-10-20 13:54     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-20 16:06   ` Drew Adams
2020-11-12  4:52 ` bug#43948: 28.0.50; [PATHC][NS] " tsuucat via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-11-12  9:06   ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-12 10:04     ` tsuucat via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-11-12 14:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-12 23:20       ` Andrii Kolomoiets
2020-11-13  8:05         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-11-13  5:32   ` Richard Stallman

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