From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an emacs-humanities mailing list Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2020 16:54:05 +0200 Message-ID: <83czzsgsxe.fsf@gnu.org> References: <10e79eeb32b5d8f49453fe62f145172d@skeletons.cc> <87pn3vr605.fsf@red-bean.com> <837dq3ldvh.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2ijo3tr.fsf@red-bean.com> <0cb78b67cf068450753d2de1457eca4a@skeletons.cc> <83y2iikf2v.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35432"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: pwr@skeletons.cc Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 02 15:55:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kkTXG-00095m-9g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 15:55:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47284 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkTXF-0008BV-AP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 09:55:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41352) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkTWF-0007jA-Pk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 09:54:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkTWE-0007U8-SO; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 09:54:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3173 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kkTWB-0006vs-1q; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 09:54:09 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83y2iikf2v.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:02:48 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260180 Archived-At: Ping! Paul, I'm waiting for your responses, and will create the list once we have that figured out. TIA. > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:02:48 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: kfogel@red-bean.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 16:03:50 +1000 > > From: "Paul W. Rankin" > > Cc: Karl Fogel , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > On 2020-11-30 15:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Do you really think this will work? I don't, FWIW. How can a group > > > of people not involved with development answer non-trivial questions, > > > suggest reporting useful bugs and feature requests etc.? Even > > > help-gnu-emacs would not be the same without several developers > > > dwelling there. Posting to emacs-devel is a slippery path to making > > > this new list a branch of the existing ones, something that this > > > initiative wants explicitly to avoid. I'm probably missing something > > > here. > > > > There's no cause to worry. The three things you list -- non-trivial > > questions, bugs, and feature requests -- are already covered by the > > other lists, where diligent Emacs developers remain on guard. There > > exists a discussion scope outside of that scope. > > Then I think this different scope should be somehow mentioned in the > list description. Could you give some examples of what you envision > as good topics to discuss on this new list, and how they differ from > discussions on help-gnu-emacs or emacs-devel? With such examples in > hand, we could try coming up with a better description, because what > you proposed is too similar to help-gnu-emacs. > > One other thing is that the list will need a moderator, to handle the > small number of valid posts by those who aren't subscribers. Would > you like to be the moderator, and if so, would you like the moderation > requests to arrive at the email address you used in this discussion? > If not, what other moderator address should I use? > > Once we have these two aspects figured out, I will create the list. > > Thanks.