From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 0161c9d 1/2: Load all generic-x.el modes unconditionally Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 05:26:48 +0200 Message-ID: <83czx8k3gn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20210209160550.18823.10795@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20210209160551.832FB20AD1@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87o8gti2ln.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg65jffx.fsf@gnu.org> <83im71j96z.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25488"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 04:27:44 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l9gAK-0006XL-AI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2021 04:27:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56620 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9gAJ-0003Ic-BU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 22:27:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48504) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9g9U-0002nJ-6y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 22:26:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34950) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l9g9S-0002lA-6U; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 22:26:50 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4134 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l9g9R-0005at-Hf; Tue, 09 Feb 2021 22:26:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:00:13 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264258 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Stefan Kangas , larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:00:13 -0500 > > > I don't see a discussion, just an opinion that some variable should go > > away. Can't we remove it without activating all the modes? > [...] > > How did you intend to handle the backward compatibility issues? > > I'm not sure which kinds of backward compatibility issues you're > thinking of. > > AFAIK none of the functions defined in `generic-x` overlap with other > packages, so there shouldn't be any conflict or > backward incompatibility. > > What am I missing? What do we tell all those (myself included) who require generic-x in their init files? And while at that: why did you think that variable was ugly and had to go?