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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: stefan@marxist.se, 50950@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#50950: [External] : bug#50950: "(emacs) Mark" should contrast to "selecting" text in other editors
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 21:55:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83czo4hk9m.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SJ0PR10MB5488B2E5BAC4A91B1B5DD851F3BA9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (message from Drew Adams on Sat, 16 Oct 2021 18:33:45 +0000)

> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> CC: "stefan@marxist.se" <stefan@marxist.se>,
>         "50950@debbugs.gnu.org"
> 	<50950@debbugs.gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2021 18:33:45 +0000
> 
> > > Point is just the current cursor position.  You
> > > move the cursor, not point.
> > 
> > Not in Emacs.  In Emacs, commands move point, and the cursor is then
> > drawn to show where point is.
> 
> Yes, in Emacs.  In Emacs, users move the cursor,
> which means that point changes.  You don't see
> point; you see the cursor.  Point is a position:
> the position of the cursor.
> 
> We're talking to users, and we should use a user
> point of view.

User's point of view will not be served if we distort the reality
while presenting it to the user.  The notion of point and its movement
is central to understanding Emacs, and realizing that changes like
point motion come first, while display of the cursor comes later, is
important to being able to extend Emacs and write Emacs Lisp programs.





  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-16 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-01 19:31 bug#50950: "(emacs) Mark" should contrast to "selecting" text in other editors Stefan Kangas
2021-10-01 19:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-01 23:01   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-02  6:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-16 13:04       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-16 14:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-16 18:14           ` bug#50950: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-16 18:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-16 18:33               ` Drew Adams
2021-10-16 18:55                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-10-16 19:26                   ` Drew Adams
2021-10-17  6:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-17  8:34             ` martin rudalics
2021-10-17 10:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-17 11:15                 ` martin rudalics
2021-10-17 11:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-17 17:44                     ` martin rudalics
2022-09-04 20:59           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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