From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
Cc: 55027@debbugs.gnu.org, hmelman@gmail.com
Subject: bug#55027: 28.1; User option python-forward-sexp-function in wrong group
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 21:53:07 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83czhaqne4.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h76mgvgh.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Kévin Le Gouguec on Thu, 21 Apr 2022 20:09:02 +0200)
> From: Kévin Le Gouguec <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
> Cc: Howard Melman <hmelman@gmail.com>, 55027@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 20:09:02 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> Since it's a new option, you're just extending the amount of time
> >> for people to get confused by it.
> >
> > Confused in what way? How can the fact that an option appears in an
> > additional customization group confuse someone?
>
> FWIW: we already have two users (Howard and myself) who raised an
> eyebrow seeing this option in python-flymake, and took the time to write
> a bug report about it.
>
> It's not entirely unlikely that more Emacs 28 users will happen to see
> this option in that group while perusing the python-flymake group, raise
> an eyebrow, and write a report. Even assuming they use 28.2, they might
> not think to check that it is also present in the "python" group, and
> might do as we did and assume it's a mistake.
>
> And even if they see that the option is also in the "python" group, they
> might not look further than "well that's silly, it shouldn't belong in
> python-flymake, let's report this". I wouldn't fault them for that.
I raise a brow about something in Emacs almost every day. That
doesn't mean all those things are problems. Let's not make a mountain
out of a molehill.
Also, let's not behave as if another opinion that's against mine will
change anything in a decision I made after careful consideration of
the possible alternatives. Contrary to popular belief, I don't make
such decisions easily, and would appreciate some minimal credit here.
> I don't mind your solution and don't want to waste anyone's time with
> this; I just saw your question and took the bait, since those
> hypothetical scenarios I describe sound more likely to me than the one
> you have in mind (IIUC: a user being {accustomed to,fine with,not
> confused by} this new option being in the python-flymake group).
>
> Please dismiss if you're not convinced.
I'm not convinced, because I considered these effects before I decided
to make that change.
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-19 21:27 bug#55027: 28.1; User option python-forward-sexp-function in wrong group Howard Melman
2022-04-20 5:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-20 6:31 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-04-20 13:50 ` Howard Melman
2022-04-20 19:55 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-04-21 6:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-21 12:06 ` Howard Melman
2022-04-21 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-21 14:33 ` Howard Melman
2022-04-21 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-21 15:46 ` Howard Melman
2022-04-21 18:09 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2022-04-21 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
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