From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#67430: 29.1; is undefined Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2023 13:18:10 +0200 Message-ID: <83cyvycc99.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878r6npfu5.fsf@tucano.isti.cnr.it> <83fs0udz35.fsf@gnu.org> <8734wuccmg.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25827"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 67430@debbugs.gnu.org, pot@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 25 12:19:05 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r6qgj-0006Ws-Iz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 12:19:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6qgc-0003sJ-Eq; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:18:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6qgb-0003rp-1B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:18:57 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6qga-0001Lq-Ny for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:18:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6qgf-0001IH-Ni for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:19:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2023 11:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 67430 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 67430-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B67430.17009111074926 (code B ref 67430); Sat, 25 Nov 2023 11:19:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 67430) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2023 11:18:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38013 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6qg7-0001HO-C6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:18:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52096) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1r6qg6-0001H9-0t for 67430@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:18:26 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r6qfv-0001KH-Ld; Sat, 25 Nov 2023 06:18:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=wjgLVMYhWwGUKHa5odHtbufyKPu5gsBqjbKdXWt+JqE=; b=YjeNTeVxcoIM hJ34XITl4yG0XqSG9rB5dR3XRpjdLytJWK8U1yUejf7jkQqm/We/LkTYsAPlePr1qPWLyTb3vYZfP WaN31RliokxNe4AyCmqz9IgecoxaYOilfK+82CE4a0/NWDN5GPNM72dA0Ncy2+hrInvZk8YRRrFdN hSvXJk1yOKb3I2L5KmeVU7wzFasjob77//KffSJbQgR10DF06BXCYITu5xWIyBry45OKVHIb3pg6O fqs0LrvmB1OcGB5P78ECAXboelaUJCOau5qk8CQgltv+JkysRAYD/CnnkIatGWtjVr37gKf6VSFRc 81Tqlw1e6AoqTU4b+XciZw==; In-Reply-To: <8734wuccmg.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:10:15 +0800) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:274959 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: pot@gnu.org, 67430@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2023 19:10:15 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > What other roles does this key play? And how frequent is each role? > > I don't know. There is generally no other use for it under X, except > perhaps as a modifier key, which if true Emacs won't register key > presses at all. > > > Also, if we bind this key by default as Francesco suggests, what > > adverse results could this cause on the systems where this binding is > > wrong? > > Nothing beyond the obvious, to wit: Emacs will react to pressing the > Multi_key as though it were bound to iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map. Then maybe we should behave by default as Francesco suggested? users which don't like the results could always unbind/rebind the key. WDYT?