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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs without threads
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 18:34:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83cyv8rbdl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v890vpo0.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> (message from Manuel Giraud on Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:12:31 +0100)

> From: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:12:31 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > The threads you see under a debugger are not Lisp threads, they are
> > threads started by GTK and other libraries we link against.  You
> > cannot disable them, except by building Emacs without those libraries
> > (I think just without GTK should do, if you are on GNU/Linux).
> 
> I'm not using GTK so maybe it is another library (maybe librsvg-2).

Look at the code those threads run (e.g., with "thread apply all bt"),
and you will know which library does that.

> >> (FWIW, I want this to simplify debugging because on my machine I cannot
> >> make GDB to switch to the correct thread
> >
> > How come?
> 
> I don't know so I will just describe the symptoms: when I "run" Emacs
> into a 'M-x gdb' session at one point the *gud* buffer will output [New
> thread ...] and then the Emacs process is stuck and so is the process of
> the *gud* buffer.  So I have to kill and close everything.

Never seen anything like that.  Any chance of describing under what
conditions this happens?  Is this 100% reproducible on your system?

> (FWIW, GDB on OpenBSD does not seem to support non-stop mode.  Maybe it
> is what is required.)

No, you don't need the non-stop mode to debug Emacs.  You need the
all-stop mode, which is supposed to be the default.

What version of GDB do you have there?



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-14 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-14 10:36 Emacs without threads Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-14 11:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-14 12:43   ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-14 13:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-14 14:12       ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-14 16:34         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-12-15 11:08           ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-15 12:11             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-15 13:58               ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-16 13:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-16 19:13                   ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-16 19:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 18:43                     ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-18  3:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-18  6:53                         ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-18 17:43                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-22  9:20                             ` Michael Albinus
2023-12-22 11:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-22 12:11                                 ` Michael Albinus
2023-12-22 13:55                                 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-22 14:28                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-22 14:44                                     ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-22 14:54                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-22 14:45                                     ` Michael Albinus

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