From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8025: 24.0.50; vc-bzr does not perform initial commit Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:34:26 +0200 Message-ID: <83bp1txtfx.fsf__2440.81183705038$1299092844$gmane$org@gnu.org> References: <86hbc9yscs.fsf@gmail.com> <4D6D1CA3.4050307@gmail.com> <83zkpey962.fsf@gnu.org> <86d3macb9l.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299092844 13119 80.91.229.12 (2 Mar 2011 19:07:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 19:07:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8025@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Christoph Scholtes Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 02 20:07:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PurOH-0002nl-2t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:07:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39300 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PurOG-0004ir-8L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:07:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46721 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PurNt-0004cr-VJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:07:00 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PurNs-0007rW-Rr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:06:53 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38719) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PurNs-0007rS-QK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:06:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Puqv0-0000EJ-Cd; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:37:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8025 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8025-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8025.1299090998831 (code B ref 8025); Wed, 02 Mar 2011 18:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8025) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2011 18:36:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Puqub-0000DM-QK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:36:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Puqua-0000DA-66 for 8025@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:36:36 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LHG0090010D6700@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 8025@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:36:30 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.183.216]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LHG008R010R4VE0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:36:30 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <86d3macb9l.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:37:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:44523 Archived-At: > From: Christoph Scholtes > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 8025@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:00:22 -0700 > > Glenn Morris writes: > > > Also remember there is the annoying bzr locking issue. Eg doing `bzr up' > > renders `bzr status' unusable so long as it is running. So it is not > > just the speed of the status command that is a factor. > > OK, but one could argue that this is a bzr issue and should be fixed > there It cannot be fixed in bzr, not unless they redesign and rewrite the branch locking code from scratch. Atomicity of transactions is important, so locks on the directory or some of its files must be used at least at some strategic points of time.