From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gnutls for win32 Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:05:43 +0200 Message-ID: <83boqns68o.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87aa68dfao.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ty4fbje8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83ehvjs8t5.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqf3bcom.fsf@lifelogs.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325437569 9524 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2012 17:06:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:06:09 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 01 18:06:05 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhOrE-00022f-BL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:06:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55808 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhOrD-0001gp-Jx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 12:06:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52412) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhOr7-0001gi-AD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 12:06:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhOr6-0002xF-CW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 12:05:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:32876) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhOr6-0002wo-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 12:05:56 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LX400A00PYO5V00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:05:40 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.18.76]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LX4009SZQ5FW0C0@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 19:05:40 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87pqf3bcom.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147127 Archived-At: > From: Ted Zlatanov > Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:38:33 -0500 > > I meant: do you want to work with Christoph to incorporate building > GnuTLS into building Emacs itself? I don't think this is practical. GnuTLS is a very large project (as you know only too well), building it requires quite a few other packages (that are its dependencies), and doing so on Windows requires to have MSYS and many supporting tools installed, in addition and alongside the MinGW setup. Asking people who build Emacs to have all that is way too much, IMO. On top of that, the Windows build of GnuTLS is not a fire-and-forget thing, due to various problems I won't go into here. E.g., the default static+dynamic build simply fails on Windows. > Yes, I mean we want to make the installation easier, that's all. Right > now they have to get the GnuTLS binaries separately. I think downloading a single zip archive and unzipping it is much easier than adding GnuTLS to Emacs. > OK. In that case, we should build some tests of the GnuTLS > functionality in Emacs so upgrading is easier and less stressful. That would be good, yes. In particular, it would allow people who don't normally use GnuTLS related features in Emacs to reliably produce tested binaries. > I can keep track of the GnuTLS releases and bump the Emacs support > when we agree it's worthwhile. (You or anyone else can volunteer to > do this if you want that role...) It should be enough to post a message saying that you recommend upgrading for this-and-that reason. TIA