From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GnuTLS for W32 Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:21:14 +0200 Message-ID: <83boqkr9bp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ty4fbje8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83ehvjs8t5.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqf3bcom.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83boqns68o.fsf@gnu.org> <87liprazr1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83wr9bqez3.fsf@gnu.org> <87y5tr9dwv.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87k45alwgb.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87fwfyltm1.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87boqmlrma.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ty4e9j19.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83obumqa0v.fsf@gnu.org> <87ipktag2e.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwfxtxuz.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87aa64ubg9.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325611291 30689 80.91.229.12 (3 Jan 2012 17:21:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 17:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 03 18:21:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri83C-0007eC-M3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:21:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44820 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri83C-0000Zz-5Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:21:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:34500) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri835-0000W2-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:21:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri833-0000Nh-EY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:21:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:35758) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ri833-0000Nd-5Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:21:17 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LX800300G4EFA00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:21:10 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.18.76]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LX800HLZG78QEA2@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 03 Jan 2012 19:21:10 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <87aa64ubg9.fsf@wanadoo.es> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147215 Archived-At: > From: =C3=93scar Fuentes > Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 15:07:02 +0100 >=20 > >> The relevant MS Windows API function (LoadLibrary) accepts a ful= l > >> pathname > > > > That's a factual truth, but it would be a grave mistake on our pa= rt to > > use absolute file names for loading dynamic libraries, because it= will > > mean a major inconvenience to users. It is hard on Windows to pi= ck up > > a fixed directory where every user could easily put the library: = the > > only directories that are guaranteed to exist on every Windows sy= stem > > are frequently locked up by security policies, the only disk driv= e > > guaranteed to exist can be a remote drive or even a read-only dri= ve, > > etc. It would be a step in the wrong direction. >=20 > You are providing reasons for the package approach: if it is hard f= or > the user to put the dll in the correct directory, let Emacs do it. No, it is _not_ hard for the user to put the DLL in the correct directory. It is hard for _us_, the programmers of package.el, to select a fixed directory that would work for all users, so that we could hardcode its absolute file name in the Emacs sources. An entirely different issue.