From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14841: Frames created invisible have their visibility parameter set to t Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:31:46 +0300 Message-ID: <83bo5kxdwd.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83a9ltun54.fsf@gnu.org> <837ggxukjt.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafx3wzz.fsf@gnu.org> <83vc45xuht.fsf@gnu.org> <83li4uv3en.fsf@gnu.org> <83hafhvnjd.fsf@gnu.org> <83wqodzll1.fsf@gnu.org> <51F3C056.2040706@gmx.at> <838v0syx2y.fsf@gnu.org> <51F3CB7C.1030005@gmx.at> <8361vwyq7f.fsf@gnu.org> <51F4D8E4.3010907@gmx.at> <8338qyzq55.fsf@gnu.org> <51F61FCC.9090008@gmx.at> <83wqo9xu9g.fsf@gnu.org> <51F69F47.7060201@gmx.at> <83hafdxldu.fsf@gnu.org> <51F@[87.69.4.28]> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375198343 19817 80.91.229.3 (30 Jul 2013 15:32:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:32:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, 14841@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 30 17:32:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V4BuM-0003zc-WD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:32:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40757 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4BuM-0007d7-7Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:32:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44265) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4BuC-0007Pv-5w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:32:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Bu7-0000Wh-2Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:32:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36056) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Bu6-0000Wd-VO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Bu6-0007or-FY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:32:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14841 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14841-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14841.137519830730013 (code B ref 14841); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14841) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2013 15:31:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58605 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Btq-0007nz-Rh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:31:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:49132) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4Bto-0007nc-3b for 14841@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:31:45 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MQR000009QGZJ00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 14841@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:31:37 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MQR000YM9SOYO00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:31:37 +0300 (IDT) Sun-Java-System-SMTP-Warning: Lines longer than SMTP allows found and truncated. In-reply-to: <51F78376.8060403@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76815 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:12:22 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > CC: 14841@debbugs.gnu.org, lekktu@gmail.com > > >> For some reason, using -mm gives me a frame _with_ outer borders while > >> adding (fullscreen . maximized) to `initial-frame-alist' gets me a frame > >> _without_ outer borders. What do you get? > > > > I get the same effect with both, which is a frame _with_ outer > > borders. But this is XP, and I think I saw a frame without borders on > > Windows 7. Will check. > > I'm on XP and I've never seen another application that shows the sizing > borders for a maximized window. Do you? I think what you call "maximized" for other applications, Emacs calls "fullboth".