From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Generalize start-process with keyword args Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 18:34:22 +0200 Message-ID: <83bnjqxo1d.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d24d3uwz.fsf-ueno@gnu.org> <83pp87y6iu.fsf@gnu.org> <83mw3bxz9f.fsf@gnu.org> <83k2yfx8zi.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1426696504 23522 80.91.229.3 (18 Mar 2015 16:35:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 16:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ueno@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 18 17:34:56 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YYGvn-0003dw-KY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 17:34:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34743 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YYGvm-0007tU-W2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59022) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YYGvZ-0007tP-L3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:34:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YYGvT-0003Qf-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:34:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout29.012.net.il ([80.179.55.185]:53863) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YYGvT-0003QJ-LG; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 12:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout29.012.net.il by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NLF00H001UE6L00@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 18:31:10 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout29.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NLF00BC51VXAY50@mtaout29.012.net.il>; Wed, 18 Mar 2015 18:31:10 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.185 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:183999 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 09:03:19 -0400 > > > I tend to agree with Stefan, as I find no documentation about the > > implication of no-conversion for ":coding nil" except in the C source > > code. Maybe we could add the exception back if it turns out to be too > > confusing. > > We should probably also declare that uses of nil in other similar > circumstances is deprecated It won't help much, because AFAIR most or all of those places are not on the user or Lisp program level, they are deep in the bowels, and used during initialization AFAIR.