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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, Stromeko@nexgo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add prettify symbols to python-mode
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 17:32:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bncrkhwb.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874mik6wqp.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>,  Emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:35:10 +0200
> 
> > BTW, I was just trying making an analysis of the this problem, and of
> > course my analysis could be wrong.  Do you have any idea why newcomers
> > mostly prefer working on application-level code in Lisp?
> 
> In my opinion that's a feature, not a bug.  Elisp is there for a reason.
> 
> > (Let's try and stay constructive.  If we can find the causes, then we
> > have the possibility to improve the current condition.)
> 
> We have Elisp exactly in order not to have to address problems by
> reverting to C programming.  In my opinion it is entirely the wrong idea
> to have people start solving problems in C because they prefer it to
> Elisp.  The main reason to solve problems in C is because there is no
> reasonably workable solution to be created in Elisp.  If beginners turn
> to C first, they will not even know whether there would be a reasonably
> workable solution available in Elisp.

110% agreement, of course.  Lisp is always preferable when it's
possible.

My fears are that when Lisp cannot be used, people just punt and say
it cannot (or won't) be done.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-24 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-20 19:28 [PATCH] Add prettify symbols to python-mode Mark Oteiza
2015-09-20 22:48 ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-09-21  0:53   ` Mark Oteiza
2015-09-21  2:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-22  6:55       ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-22 12:44         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-22 14:42           ` Rasmus
2015-09-22 22:02           ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-23  6:22           ` Achim Gratz
2015-09-23  7:13             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23  8:04               ` David Kastrup
2015-09-23 14:12               ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-09-23 16:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 16:52                   ` David Kastrup
2015-09-23 17:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 17:58                       ` David Kastrup
2015-09-23 19:24                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 19:39                           ` David Kastrup
2015-09-23 19:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 19:56                               ` David Kastrup
2015-09-23 20:04                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 20:10                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-09-23 19:38                         ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-23 19:46                           ` David Kastrup
2015-09-23 20:15                             ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-23 21:40                               ` David Kastrup
2015-09-24  1:16                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-24  3:57                   ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-09-24 14:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-23 19:07               ` Achim Gratz
2015-09-23 19:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-24  8:06               ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-09-24  8:35                 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-24 10:33                   ` Kaushal Modi
2015-09-24 14:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-24 13:06                   ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-09-24 14:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-09-28  7:17             ` Dmitry Gutov

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